CAMC would not allow member in a predicament to have water!

poppycamper said:
ceejayt useful map. However No CAMC sites on that map unless you a resident.
And you need to be member to use the CCC site ones.👍👍👍👍
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It does state that at the top of the map. All CAMC and CandC sites are in the map that offer a blackjack tank emptying point There is a filter at the bottom of the map
 
ceejayt said:
It does state that at the top of the map. All CAMC and CandC sites are in the map that offer a blackjack tank emptying point There is a filter at the bottom of the map
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Yes appreciate that. However I am just pointing out that you cannot use CCC facilties unless you are a CCC member..
Also you cannot use the CAMC facilities unless you are staying over night at the site.
Otherwise, as stated in my post, your map is a fine resource that has obviously taken time to put together.

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plumbob said:
Received an email this week moved our booking in September to new booking system and are bringing in deposits. Not a bad thing as every weekend is booked up but when and if you can get in they have umpteen no shows
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That’s correct however existing bookings won’t attract a deposit just future booking made after the change over
 
poppycamper said:
Yes appreciate that. However I am just pointing out that you cannot use CCC facilties unless you are a CCC member..
Also you cannot use the CAMC facilities unless you are staying over night at the site.
Otherwise, as stated in my post, your map is a fine resource that has obviously taken time to put together.
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poppycamper said:
Yes appreciate that. However I am just pointing out that you cannot use CCC facilties unless you are a CCC member..
Also you cannot use the CAMC facilities unless you are staying over night at the site.
Otherwise, as stated in my post, your map is a fine resource that has obviously taken time to put together.
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Have added the words to the explanation at the top, thanks





Some C and CC sites offer a 3 hour service stop over for use of facilities including emptying of black tanks (you must be a member to make use of this facility). The map shows locations of those sites which have Motorhome Service Points. Not all these sites can be guaranteed to have easy access if you have a large vehicle. The black markers are C and CC sites, Yellow for Caravan and Motorhome Club sites with service points (overnight stay required). White pins indicate other 'to the ground' black tank emptying points
 
royandsharont said:
I cannot believe what a very good friend has just told me! He and his wife are touring Scotland in their Auto Trail and finding the sites very busy so are having to wild camp too.

He has lost his fresh water tank discharge pipe and all his water, but has managed a temporary fix.

He visited a CAMC site to stay but there were no vacancies. He explained their predicament to the site wardens and asked if he could fill his empty tank with water, they told him no, it was not allowed. He went to Tesco and bought bottled water to put into it.

I honestly cannot believe this is how low the CAMC rules have stooped towards anyone, let alone Members. Shame on them and that warden not making an exception in the circumstances.

As it’s not me I do not wish to name the site.
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I could understand this 'rule' in England given waters metred down there but in Scotland it's included as part of our community tax i.e. however they price their stays it's already factored in and they won't be paying anymore themselves regardless of use. The human element comes in, I've worked in lots of places when younger that we weren't meant to do this that or the other, when it came to a little milk of human kindness I always erred on the basis it was easier to ask for forgiveness afterwards than permission before i.e. like to think I never once turned away anyone in need regardless of a company's policy. Not the first time either it generated publicity or word of mouth that created extra business. CAMC never seem to generated much of that, good publicity that is!
 
Nigel P wrote " As others have said if the business was forward thinking and responsive to customer needs a separate service point could be provided, even if it was on a token basis from the office."
To expect "forward thinking and responsive" from CAMC is a vain hope.
 
Gellyneck said:
Whilst not condoning the wardens position outlined in the OP if the Club were to offer \ provide a service to access a site for members to "service" their vehicles how would this be managed when a number of site receptions are only open for a limited number of hours (usually 13:00 - 18:00) for checking in new arrivals.:unsure:

If access for vehicle "servicing" were to be restricted to these hours it would, potentially, make the queue at the service point even longer. We've been 4th \ 5th in a queue more than once with the site being "clogged up".
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I think they need to take a leaf out of the Calais municipal site. Paid overnight site and a longer term site next door with full services such as showers etc and between the sites is a paid services area with grey / black water as well as potable water all for a small fee.

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NoName said:
I think they need to take a leaf out of the Calais municipal site. Paid overnight site and a longer term site next door with full services such as showers etc and between the sites is a paid services area with grey / black water as well as potable water all for a small fee.
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and who pays the upfront costs for providing this infrastructure on the 200 or so Club sites?:unsure: Doubt there would be funding from the Local \ Regional Council.
 
TinaL said:
Exactly the same happened to us while touring Scotland 4 years back, I even posted my disappointment on here at the time.
We needed to fill & Empty our tanks, so thought we would take a chance & stay at The CMC site in Fort William, we pulled into the arrivals spot with one PVC van in front of us. The wife went in to ask if they could fit us in for the night,
Got the usual question " Have you booked" wife said no we were just passing and saw the sign, warden lady said "No We are fully booked now, the van in front of you got the last space" was the answer, wife returned to the van told me the bad news. I said ah well, we hadn't booked anyhow so if they are full that's fair enough.:(
I then went into reception and asked if we could fill & empty our tanks, as I had heard that you could do that for a fee of £7/8 back then. The warden lady said "No you cant if you are not staying". I then said I though you allowed CMC members to fill & empty, and again showed her our membership card. Warden lady said " No I have never heard of that facility being offered", she then said.."I would suggest you write in and request it maybe, as we just work here, we don't make the rules"

I went up the road, found a petrol station, bought some fuel & milk, the girl on the till said, take your van round the side, there's a water tap round there, and you can use our WC which is also round there.(y) I couldn't thank her enough at the time, there are some nice people outside the warden rule environment of The CMC.
It was later that I discovered it wasn't The CMC it was The CCC club that offered the refill service for a fee of £7/8.:doh:
We left the CMC club after that event, sent a letter in, never got a response, so cancelled our DDM and will not join again any time soon.
LES
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Yes it is (or was) the Camping & caravan Club that had that facility on some of their main sites. For the £7/8 you could also use their other facilities, grey water, Elson and even have a shower within the allotted time given (I think it was 2hrs).

This service was stopped, of course, during Covid and am not sure if it has been reinstated?
 
L' Hobo said:
Yes it is (or was) the Camping & caravan Club that had that facility. For the £7/8 you could also use their other facilities, grey water, Elson and even have a shower within the allotted time given (I think it was 2hrs).

This service was stopped, of course, during Covid and am not sure if it has been reinstated?
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It has been recently reinstated - I phoned the club to check
 
philann said:
Has anyone tried turning up at a private site e.g. Haven and asked to use the services? Or is it just CAMC that refuse this?
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I was not a member of Haven but I had been a member of CAMC for many years so I would not expect Haven to let me have water but as a long standing member of CAMC I find that even though willing to pay we were not allowed so I'm sticking with the CCC who have a much better way of dealing with paid up members who needed a little help.
 
This all sounds a bit like marmite you either love the CAMC or CCC or you hate I’m indifferent but my wife loves the organised set up at the CAMC even though we don’t use the shower block

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I was a member of the then caravan club and we arrived at chats worth about 12.50 for booking in at 1pm. I didn’t know how long it was goimg to take to get there and thought I did the timing rather well. Some woman came storming out and told me to get back in my veh and wait , I now am no longer a member after that incident and refer to the site as Stalag 42 !!!
 
Coolcats said:
There is another perspective and probably the reason why CAMC do not allow casual visits to fill and dump waste

What it would mean is that those who wild camp or any one caught short could, for a membership fee just use the facilities and never stay on site. So when you consider the popular sites you could have 20-50 MoHo's wanting to use the facilities a day.

So once again whilst it may seem a punitive policy it actually protects the quality of the stay for members who have paid thier hard earned money. The policy manages those resources but also those who would use and abuse facilities, these sites are not passing MoHo service stations and were never designed to be.
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A view that I've been thinking about since our Scotland tour back in May. We took two days getting up over the border (using Britstops) then at our first proper campsite, before we visited our pitch, we deposited two days of waste water into their sewage tanks. We did stay for four days, so I did not think this was not too bad.
However I was considering the campsites point of view. Their business model is based on campers turning up, using their facilities and depositing a similar amount of waste - And they have to pay for both, clean water in and waste water out!
If they are now seeing campervans/motorhomes turning up for one night, with 2-5 days of waste and picking up a full tank of clean water for another few days "freeloading" there has to be a cost or a limitation.
 
has a independant park owner we do not allow non residents to come on park and fill up with water , one it is for paying customers only and 2 not only do we have to pay for the water you take we have to pay sewerage disposal costs based on 85% of our water usage would you let anyone pull on your house drive and charge there batteries up on your paid for electric i do not think so , so look at it like that
 
plumbob said:
My thought exactly only when I got back in and drove to the MH service point I wAs third in line and really blocking the road where as I could have pulled in by the other tap no problem. Ahhh!!!!!
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I am convinced they have a hit team visiting sites to make up new rules.
 
Bleau’s said:
has a independant park owner we do not allow non residents to come on park and fill up with water , one it is for paying customers only and 2 not only do we have to pay for the water you take we have to pay sewerage disposal costs based on 85% of our water usage would you let anyone pull on your house drive and charge there batteries up on your paid for electric i do not think so , so look at it like that
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But people are willing to pay so not quite the same as you analogy.
 
Bleau’s said:
has a independant park owner we do not allow non residents to come on park and fill up with water , one it is for paying customers only and 2 not only do we have to pay for the water you take we have to pay sewerage disposal costs based on 85% of our water usage would you let anyone pull on your house drive and charge there batteries up on your paid for electric i do not think so , so look at it like that
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We aren't asking for it for free, merely for a suitable fee.
 
Bleau’s said:
has a independant park owner we do not allow non residents to come on park and fill up with water , one it is for paying customers only and 2 not only do we have to pay for the water you take we have to pay sewerage disposal costs based on 85% of our water usage would you let anyone pull on your house drive and charge there batteries up on your paid for electric i do not think so , so look at it like that
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If you advise where your park is we can all make detours and not bother you, (y)
 
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and fill up with as much fresh as they like, and wash their van if they want to. Can do so here for a tenner. Take as long as you like to do this, as long as you are off by 1pm the following day. :D
 
We have just helped run a THS at a school at the seaside where there are very many " wild campers"
It was unbelievable how many of these thought it was OK just to come on and fill up with water.

The water is metered and they had no right to steal the water or be on the school premises.

We had the odd row with some of them whilst others told stories of breakdowns, leaks, emergencies, inadequacies, difficulties, losing membership cards.........we pointed them in the direction of Aldi, Morrisons, Lidl and the one in the Cathargo to Sainsbury's.

We even had a couple in a campervan drive into the school car park where the water was, strip naked and wash himself down in full view of the teenagers at the school's summer hockey school

Freeloaders, Liars, Chancers

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My initial thoughts were how awful this is and that they should have been given water !
Then as I read the whole thread I have to agree I can see why they don’t allow this as part of their company policy . I certainly wouldn’t appreciate queuing for a long time at the service point because 100s of FLTs have found a “loophole “ to dump a cassette and fill up and drain their tanks pretty much anywhere for a small yearly fee !
I still can’t believe I am defending the camc .
 
billym said:
We had the odd row with some of them whilst others told stories of breakdowns, leaks, emergencies, inadequacies, difficulties, losing membership cards.........we pointed them in the direction of Aldi, Morrisons, Lidl and the one in the Cathargo to Sainsbury's.
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Surely you mean ‘Waitrose’……..??! ;)
 
Bleau’s said:
has a independant park owner we do not allow non residents to come on park and fill up with water , one it is for paying customers only and 2 not only do we have to pay for the water you take we have to pay sewerage disposal costs based on 85% of our water usage would you let anyone pull on your house drive and charge there batteries up on your paid for electric i do not think so , so look at it like that
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And thereby miss the opportunity of increasing the number of paying customers that you service each year.
With some commercial nous the charge rate could be set to increase the profitability of the business.
Or am I being thick?

Ian

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