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Basildog

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As we have been thinking about Gas Safety .Anyone see any problem with this set up ?
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Two things. Not supposed to used propane indoors. No jubilee clips?
 
The GasBank site only talks of LPG. I think that's predominantly propane. Certainly in the UK.
 
It's a vapour gas bottle, not lpg?
 
Here’s a clue
We actually refuse to sell refillable LPG cylinders to customers that want to use them indoors, especially in cabinet heaters.
 
Wrong pressure :unsure:

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LPG from filling station is a mix of propane and butane. Don’t think propane is allowed for indoor use.
 
If its true that Propane Gas is not suitable for "indoor" use, then I am struggling to see how its OK to use in Motor Homes, after all that could also be classed as "indoor" use?:unsure:
I am sure many would have seen those large industrial Gas Blower heater's used to keep warehouses/building sites dry & warm, they run on Red Bottled Propane, same as most static caravans have red Propane bottles although they are normally stored outside the caravan.
I am dying to find out from Basildog what the correct answer is.
LES
 
No refill and regulator adapter in photo?

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The regulator is a propane regulator for an exchange propane bottle & 37mb. For a cabinet heater it should be butane at 28mb.
The bottle is LPG which in the UK is 95% - 100% propane which you are not allowed to use indoors.
 
Nothing wrong with a cabinet heater, no different to a gas fire at home.
Both my Kontiki and RV had radiant gas heater panels as standard
BUT....they produce excessive condensation.
 
TinaLes said:
If its true that Propane Gas is not suitable for "indoor" use, then I am struggling to see how its OK to use in Motor Homes, after all that could also be classed as "indoor" use?:unsure:
I am sure many would have seen those large industrial Gas Blower heater's used to keep warehouses/building sites dry & warm, they run on Red Bottled Propane, same as most static caravans have red Propane bottles although they are normally stored outside the caravan.
I am dying to find out from Basildog what the correct answer is.
LES
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Your point is extremely valid and one many struggle to get their head round 😂

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TinaLes said:
If its true that Propane Gas is not suitable for "indoor" use, then I am struggling to see how its OK to use in Motor Homes, after all that could also be classed as "indoor" use?:unsure:
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One difference might be the bottle storage. In a motorhome the bottle has to be stored in a room sealed locker with a drop vent to allow gas to escape. The pressure is reduced from propane at about 8.5bar (123psi) to mere millibars before it goes outside the locker. In a house the 8.5bar would be right next to the flame, a leak could be catastrophic. Butane bottles are at a much lower pressure of about 1 bar (15psi) and a much lower risk.
 
Pausim said:
One difference might be the bottle storage. In a motorhome the bottle has to be stored in a room sealed locker with a drop vent to allow gas to escape. The pressure is reduced from propane at about 8.5bar (123psi) to mere millibars before it goes outside the locker. In a house the 8.5bar would be right next to the flame, a leak could be catastrophic. Butane bottles are at a much lower pressure of about 1 bar (15psi) and a much lower risk.
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Spot on 👍
You would be surprised how many can’t understand that essentially the gas locker in a leisure vehicle is basically external.
So whilst Propane is perfectly safe to use indoors , Propane cylinders or tanks should NEVER be stored or used indoors.
Especially not in a cabinet heater .
From Calor website:

How much gas can I store?​

Here are our guidelines on how much gas you can store safely

For residential properties, you can store up to 30kg of butane (2 x 15kg gas bottles) indoors, for use in portable gas heaters for example.

Propane should always be stored outdoors; and in the case of fixed installations, propane should be sited outside. Calor stockists and commercial/industrial premises may use propane indoors on a temporary basis, for example whilst using a blowtorch, but the LPG should be stored outdoors and in accordance with the UKLPG Code of Practice No 7 "Storage of Full and Empty LPG Cylinders and Cartridges".
 
Phew!

Just about to re-mount my old external underslung tank to the new van and was starting to get worried!

I'm overly cautious when it comes to this stuff and bought proper gas leak detection spray (rather than soapy water) camufigenometric.. can't remember the proper name now.

I also leave the burner lit and turn the gas off at the bottle so that any gas in the pipe is burned off.

No gas in the vehicle ever (aside from when I'm using it).

Carbon monoxide and gas detector sensors are a must for me too.

I'd go full electric if it wasn't for the fact that cooking on a flame is just so much better for 98.56% of applications.
 

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