Best tracker device?

[colyboy]

Which is the most reliable Tracker to buy?
Thanks in advance

 

[Coolcats]

Which is the most reliable Tracker to buy?
Thanks in advance

Your going to get dozens of reply’s most of which are GPS based however with a claimed 95% recovery a tracker by tracker may be a good idea. Whilst not the cheapest it may be one of the most effective.

Devices by Tracker™

Tracker’s patented VHF technology is superior to that of GPS trackers and can track your vehicle across Europe, even if it’s underground or in a shipping container. Tracker’s vehicle trackers for personal use have integrated motion sensor alerts, alerting you immediately if your vehicle leaves its designated geofence area.

Tracker also has a unique relationship with UK Police Forces which allow proactive recovery and quicker response times. Tracker has Stolen Vehicle Recovery (SVR) systems in over 2000 UK Police vehicles, including the National Police Air Service helicopter fleet and most major UK ports.

With an impressive 95% recovery rate, Tracker is your best chance of getting your vehicle back, unharmed.

https://www.tracker.co.uk/personal-solutions

 

[eddie]

Your going to get dozens of reply’s most of which are GPS based however with a claimed 95% recovery a tracker by tracker may be a good idea. Whilst not the cheapest it may be one of the most effective.

Devices by Tracker™

Tracker’s patented VHF technology is superior to that of GPS trackers and can track your vehicle across Europe, even if it’s underground or in a shipping container. Tracker’s vehicle trackers for personal use have integrated motion sensor alerts, alerting you immediately if your vehicle leaves its designated geofence area.

Tracker also has a unique relationship with UK Police Forces which allow proactive recovery and quicker response times. Tracker has Stolen Vehicle Recovery (SVR) systems in over 2000 UK Police vehicles, including the National Police Air Service helicopter fleet and most major UK ports.

With an impressive 95% recovery rate, Tracker is your best chance of getting your vehicle back, unharmed.

https://www.tracker.co.uk/personal-solutions

Tracker VHF is very old technology pre GPS

Only a handful of Police vehicles are equipped Nationally and you would have to pass within a couple of miles of a suitably equipped police car if indeed anyone ever see's a Police car

It's the same technology as you see whatshisnane on Spring watch trying to locate a Baby Owl with a coat hanger type aerial waving it round and round

 

[Coolcats]

Tracker VHF is very old technology pre GPS

Only a handful of Police vehicles are equipped Nationally and you would have to pass within a couple of miles of a suitably equipped police car if indeed anyone ever see's a Police car

It's the same technology as you see whatshisnane on Spring watch trying to locate a Baby Owl with a coat hanger type aerial waving it round and round

So Eddie, Tracker claim that they have a 95% recovery rate they also claim:

“The only tracking service to offer your vehicle Police protection

No other tracking product comes with the security offered by Tracker’s unique relationship with the UK Police force. Our detection units are fitted on over 2000 police patrol cars, all police helicopters and at major sea ports to help the Police locate your stolen vehicle quickly.”

I purchased your Alarm and would recommend it to anyone absolutely top service from you and have had a brilliant few installs and responses from Tracker and like yourself have found they give great customer service

if you believe that Tracker are lying about how many are fitted to vehicles and thier ability to locate and recover maybe you should challenge them to say ‘it’s only useful for locating Owls’ and the police only have a handfull’ when tracker say 2000 it could be viewed libellous unless you can show otherwise

We have had this conversation before and I understand you’re not keen which is fine. However I would recommend Vanbitz and Tracker to anyone, a mate who is a local farmer has the business tracker fitted to his equipment and have to say one of his farm vehicles was recovered by Tracker and the police so what’s not to like ?

 

[Coolcats]

Tracker VHF is very old technology pre GPS

Only a handful of Police vehicles are equipped Nationally and you would have to pass within a couple of miles of a suitably equipped police car if indeed anyone ever see's a Police car

It's the same technology as you see whatshisnane on Spring watch trying to locate a Baby Owl with a coat hanger type aerial waving it round and round

Just because something is old technology doesn’t make it rubbish https://www.rega.co.uk/

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[whisky walker]

I've got Skytag fitted to a couple of Land rover defenders and I would highly recommend it. It's been fitted now since they first started many years back and haven't had one single issue. It provides-the following and is also transferable between cars, very simple to fit takes about an hour.
Pinpoint GPS Tracking
Worldwide coverage
24/7 service
Battery tamper alerts
Intelligent movement alerts
Direct police access and liaison
Simple install and transferable
Internal backup battery

 

[Coolcats]

Tracker VHF is very old technology pre GPS

Only a handful of Police vehicles are equipped Nationally and you would have to pass within a couple of miles of a suitably equipped police car if indeed anyone ever see's a Police car

It's the same technology as you see whatshisnane on Spring watch trying to locate a Baby Owl with a coat hanger type aerial waving it round and round

They also use

4-way location tracking with our military-grade patented VHF and MESH technology as well as incorporating GPS and GSM technology

 

[Coolcats]

I've got Skytag fitted to a couple of Land rover defenders and I would highly recommend it. It's been fitted now since they first started many years back and haven't had one single issue. It provides-the following and is also transferable between cars, very simple to fit takes about an hour.
Pinpoint GPS Tracking
Worldwide coverage
24/7 service
Battery tamper alerts
Intelligent movement alerts
Direct police access and liaison
Simple install and transferable
Internal backup battery

You need more than GPS.

https://uk.bigupgadgets.com/jax-110c-portable-gps-jammer-coverage-5-10m-06-0227932?msclkid=54e1f7a27e101336c72790695c3fa80a

 

[whisky walker]

You need more than GPS.

https://uk.bigupgadgets.com/jax-110c-portable-gps-jammer-coverage-5-10m-06-0227932?msclkid=54e1f7a27e101336c72790695c3fa80a

That's OK if the GPS is working along the freq of 1560~1580MHz but Skytag uses random freq that changes several times so very hard to block using a jammer apparently. But that's about all my knowledge. Lol

 

[eddie]

So Eddie, Tracker claim that they have a 95% recovery rate they also claim:

“The only tracking service to offer your vehicle Police protection

There is no evidence that the Police would turn out to a "Tracker" Tracked vehicle crime over say a Trackstar reported crime

No other tracking product comes with the security offered by Tracker’s unique relationship with the UK Police force. Our detection units are fitted on over 2000 police patrol cars, all police helicopters and at major sea ports to help the Police locate your stolen vehicle quickly.”

Well the Metropolitan Police have Circa 6000 vehicles, and the Police forces as a whole have approximately 40,0000 police vehicles, so after well over thirty odd years 5% of Police vehicles isn't exactly "blanket cover"

I purchased your Alarm and would recommend it to anyone absolutely top service from you and have had a brilliant few installs and responses from Tracker and like yourself have found they give great customer service

Thank you, I know that Tracker are a good company to deal with, it's their marketing I have issues with

if you believe that Tracker are lying about how many are fitted to vehicles and thier ability to locate and recover maybe you should challenge them to say ‘it’s only useful for locating Owls’ and the police only have a handfull’ when tracker say 2000 it could be viewed libellous unless you can show otherwise

I was involved albeit slightly in the potential legal action between RAC Trackstar (as it was at the time) and Tracker Pat Gallagher the MD of Trackstar was advertising that Tracker had a "handful of police cars equipped" with a VFH receiver! Legal action loomed. After some backwards and forwards arguing between the Solicitors it was agreed that Trackstar could use the term in their advertising "One of a relatively small number"

Pat wanted it to to Court, knowing that Tracker would have to prove exactly how many they did have to disprove the phrase!

However, it was decided that "relatively few" OK but a handful was incorrect!

I have always been anti ANY tracking system unless it is a condition of insurance as I have said many many times. The reality is the vast majority of ALL vehicle crime is theft from the vehicle not of it. Many vehicles are stolen for secondary crime, getaway vehicles, ram raiding, to raise cash for say drugs, boy racers wanting to meet their mates and do "doughnuts" in the car park at Hollywood Bowl, all things that wouldn't make your motorhome the "Scroats 1st choice"

Common sense first, then a decent alarm designed for the job, then a Non Starter and only if the Insurers insist a Tracking system

We have had this conversation before and I understand you’re not keen which is fine. However I would recommend Vanbitz and Tracker to anyone, a mate who is a local farmer has the business tracker fitted to his equipment and have to say one of his farm vehicles was recovered by Tracker and the police so what’s not to like ?

I'd probably have a Tracker if I had a Track'ter as well


To be fair, lots of farm equipment is protected using VFH as it does penetrate buildings better than cellular once the Police visit a suspected crime scene, but as I said the range is very very limited so a Policeman walking around slower with his "coathanger" could very well detect stolen equipment, but as anyone who has tried to get the Police to respond to a vehicle crime is hard, so suggesting to cash strapped Police forces that they "get the Helicopter up immediately would be met with derision, hence my comments about marketing rather than efficaciousness of the product.

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[Taran_Las]

Whenever I hear the word 'efficacious' I immediately think of 'medicinal compound'.

 

[Coolcats]

That's OK if the GPS is working along the freq of 1560~1580MHz but Skytag uses random freq that changes several times so very hard to block using a jammer apparently. But that's about all my knowledge. Lol

that was an £18 jammer there are others with wide frequencies, thieves are not stupid and go for the most common blockers

Having said that it’s all about a multilayers approach a vanbitz alarm, then physical eg clutch claw disclock OBD safe etc etc

 

[StillGoing]

Which is the most reliable Tracker to buy?
Thanks in advance

Why do you want one? Is your insurance company insisting on one?

 

[Coolcats]

There is no evidence that the Police would turn out to a "Tracker" Tracked vehicle crime over say a Trackstar reported crime

Like all crime things are prioritised against criminal activity

Well the Metropolitan Police have Circa 6000 vehicles, and the Police forces as a whole have approximately 40,0000 police vehicles, so after well over thirty odd years 5% of Police vehicles isn't exactly "blanket cover"

Clearly not but a claimed 95% recovery maybe they do not need more

Thank you, I know that Tracker are a good company to deal with, it's their marketing I have issues with

No problem Eddie credit where credit is due,
Marketing eh who would have thought

I was involved albeit slightly in the potential legal action between RAC Trackstar (as it was at the time) and Tracker Pat Gallagher the MD of Trackstar was advertising that Tracker had a "handful of police cars equipped" with a VFH receiver! Legal action loomed. After some backwards and forwards arguing between the Solicitors it was agreed that Trackstar could use the term in their advertising "One of a relatively small number"

Pat wanted it to to Court, knowing that Tracker would have to prove exactly how many they did have to disprove the phrase!

However, it was decided that "relatively few" OK but a handful was incorrect!

5% could be considered relatively few but when you think of what kit can go in to a police car it is not unreasonable not all cars are equipped with all available equipment

How many Police cars carry sniffer dogs (Drugs)
How many Police cars carry dogs for tracking or biting
How many Police cars carry stingers
the list goes on I have no idea, what I do accept is not all police vehicles have all kit and neither could they

I have always been anti ANY tracking system unless it is a condition of insurance as I have said many many times. The reality is the vast majority of ALL vehicle crime is theft from the vehicle not of it. Many vehicles are stolen for secondary crime, getaway vehicles, ram raiding, to raise cash for say drugs, boy racers wanting to meet their mates and do "doughnuts" in the car park at Hollywood Bowl, all things that wouldn't make your motorhome the "Scroats 1st choice"

Common sense first, then a decent alarm designed for the job, then a Non Starter and only if the Insurers insist a Tracking system

Cant disagree its all about a multilayer approach

I'd probably have a Tracker if I had a Track'ter as well


To be fair, lots of farm equipment is protected using VFH as it does penetrate buildings better than cellular once the Police visit a suspected crime scene, but as I said the range is very very limited so a Policeman walking around slower with his "coathanger" could very well detect stolen equipment, but as anyone who has tried to get the Police to respond to a vehicle crime is hard, so suggesting to cash strapped Police forces that they "get the Helicopter up immediately would be met with derision, hence my comments about marketing rather than efficaciousness of the product.

I think you will find Tracker do a few things, Boost the power of the unit when tracked but also using the GPS/GSM Mesh will provide a greater range.

But like all this stuff that goes to hep protect our MoHo's its best effort

 

[Coolcats]

There is no evidence that the Police would turn out to a "Tracker" Tracked vehicle crime over say a Trackstar reported crime

Well the Metropolitan Police have Circa 6000 vehicles, and the Police forces as a whole have approximately 40,0000 police vehicles, so after well over thirty odd years 5% of Police vehicles isn't exactly "blanket cover"

Thank you, I know that Tracker are a good company to deal with, it's their marketing I have issues with

I was involved albeit slightly in the potential legal action between RAC Trackstar (as it was at the time) and Tracker Pat Gallagher the MD of Trackstar was advertising that Tracker had a "handful of police cars equipped" with a VFH receiver! Legal action loomed. After some backwards and forwards arguing between the Solicitors it was agreed that Trackstar could use the term in their advertising "One of a relatively small number"

Pat wanted it to to Court, knowing that Tracker would have to prove exactly how many they did have to disprove the phrase!

However, it was decided that "relatively few" OK but a handful was incorrect!

I have always been anti ANY tracking system unless it is a condition of insurance as I have said many many times. The reality is the vast majority of ALL vehicle crime is theft from the vehicle not of it. Many vehicles are stolen for secondary crime, getaway vehicles, ram raiding, to raise cash for say drugs, boy racers wanting to meet their mates and do "doughnuts" in the car park at Hollywood Bowl, all things that wouldn't make your motorhome the "Scroats 1st choice"

Common sense first, then a decent alarm designed for the job, then a Non Starter and only if the Insurers insist a Tracking system


I'd probably have a Tracker if I had a Track'ter as well


To be fair, lots of farm equipment is protected using VFH as it does penetrate buildings better than cellular once the Police visit a suspected crime scene, but as I said the range is very very limited so a Policeman walking around slower with his "coathanger" could very well detect stolen equipment, but as anyone who has tried to get the Police to respond to a vehicle crime is hard, so suggesting to cash strapped Police forces that they "get the Helicopter up immediately would be met with derision, hence my comments about marketing rather than efficaciousness of the product.

Think this is a nice picture highlighting the limited range of VHF.

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[Pausim]

Which is the most reliable Tracker to buy?
Thanks in advance

Thatcham approved trackers are the ones that have undergone independent assessments for reliable performance, which is why they are the ones insurance companies specify. The top category is S5 but some companies will do S5 plus models with a few useful add on features.

 

[eddie]

Think this is a nice picture highlighting the limited range of VHF.


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Yes marine VHF, 25watts, with a suitable antenna and operated by some trained, and licensed having passed an exam, as I did

Not to be confused by a much smaller wattage, with a much smaller range.

 

[Ernesto]

Why do you want one? Is your insurance company insisting on one?

This is the interesting bit for me.

My priority order would be 1. Deter thieves from even trying - fit a proper, visible alarm. 2. If they do try it, make it very hard to move the van - fit a decent immobiliser.
Only after this is all in place does a tracker come into the equation.

 

[Pausim]

Just because something is old technology doesn’t make it rubbish https://www.rega.co.uk/

But sometimes new technology is a very significant improvement and GPS is a good example of this. Before GPS there was a marine navigation system based on radio masts, it was very hit and miss and often let me down when it would have been most helpful. A wise mariner never relies entirely on electronic devices but GPS was a monumental improvement over the earlier radio mast system.

 

[Coolcats]

But sometimes new technology is a very significant improvement and GPS is a good example of this. Before GPS there was a marine navigation system based on radio masts, it was very hit and miss and often let me down when it would have been most helpful. A wise mariner never relies entirely on electronic devices but GPS was a monumental improvement over the earlier radio mast system.

I have not said gps is rubbish, you could use your argument for blue tooth and CD’s and mp3 or 4, yet you can buy a brand new vinyl player today as there is a value in that old technology. When a company provides VHF, gps/gsm and mesh it’s not relying on just a one trick pony

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[colyboy]

Thanks for all your replies . Still lot sure which to buy?

 

[Ernesto]

We’re possibly still waiting for someone who specifically bought a tracker, rather than one that was included with the alarm/ immobiliser.
Has your insurer said you need to add one to your alarm immobiliser or are you looking for a standalone tracker ? It might help people who can suggest ideas?

 

[Reallyretired]

With all the various locks and immobiliser fitted , if the van is stolen it will probably be quite damaged, so you might not want it recovered.

 

[Coolcats]

With all the various locks and immobiliser fitted , if the van is stolen it will probably be quite damaged, so you might not want it recovered.

Exactly, I just want to know where they are to send in the Reaper with a Hellfire missile they won’t be taking another Motorhome would that type of response be over the top

 

[IRHP]

Yes marine VHF, 25watts, with a suitable antenna and operated by some trained, and licensed having passed an exam, as I did

Not to be confused by a much smaller wattage, with a much smaller range.

Ah but was it pre DSC

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[StillGoing]

This is the interesting bit for me.

My priority order would be 1. Deter thieves from even trying - fit a proper, visible alarm. 2. If they do try it, make it very hard to move the van - fit a decent immobiliser.
Only after this is all in place does a tracker come into the equation.

Your motorhome should already have an immobiliser fitted as standard unless it is very old.

If the alarm is only there as a visible deterrent, then you can put warning signs (easily obtained) on the doors saying the motorhome is alarmed. You could fit a flashing red light on the dash to make it seem like there’s an alarm.

Sadly, a vehicle alarm going off is usually ignored by everyone but it might scare the thieves away when it goes off. My insurance company insists I have one and use it.

Professional thieves are able to disable a tracker. A good tracker is expensive and normally has annual fees. If your insurance company doesn’t require one, do you need to fit the best?

There are no easy answers!

 

[Coolcats]

Thanks for all your replies . Still lot sure which to buy?

Go for something that has multiple technology including VHF MESH GPS and GSM

As others have said ensure you have an Alarm and physical security as well, it worked for my friend who is a farmer and have a claimed 95% recovery rate what's not to like. I would recommend this as product as I would Vanbitz

 

[Graham Page]

Thanks for all your replies . Still lot sure which to buy?

I have the car version of this on a very expensive vehicle (not a motorhome) and it’s very good and insurance approved. Also good value if you go for lifetime subscription if you intend to keep the vehicle. https://movingintelligence.co.uk/pa...n3528ZKAGfMEO0zLwuoFTDNwXhATGEGfHJwMa3m_IZvtK

 

[chris McKenny]

We’re possibly still waiting for someone who specifically bought a tracker, rather than one that was included with the alarm/ immobiliser.
Has your insurer said you need to add one to your alarm immobiliser or are you looking for a standalone tracker ? It might help people who can suggest ideas?

Purchased one from VanBitz , meta track , does all it says on box , very useful notification saying cab battery low , have on daughters phone as well so in case of any problems ( age creeping up now! ) she can see exactly where we are ,plus other features , Remember to switch to travel mode when on ferry or in for repair otherwise you will get multiple notifications and phone calls ! Enjoy

 

[Hobgoblin]

Which is the most reliable Tracker to buy?
Thanks in advance

I have a GPSBob. Can see where my motorhome is in real time on the app and even the battery voltage which is handy when it is in storage in winter.
Only an up front cost and no monthly fees. Had ours for for 3 years and still has over 50% of data left on the SIM card. Only additional cost will be to top up the sim at some point.
Only drawback is insurance companies don’t recognise it so won’t give any discount on premiums this is outweighed by savings given by the unit.

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