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ShiftZZ

ShiftZZ

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Addeda dog trailer, the connection /link was too smallfir the bolt to go through. So I had to make the hole bigger, took some time, with a small handfile, eventually it worked

Hooked up the bike yesterday, got to Gib, it cMe off, lost it. Messaged AS bikes, no reply,at this point I was sort of stick in Gibraltar, rang them, tgey said it was s standard nut,available at any bike shop, tried two FAILED. Messaged them again no reply.
Got to a bike shop in La Linea, tgey found two nuts, the last two in the store.the nuts are nit standard, available anywhere. The ones that fitted were. See pic.

Just be aware AS parts may nit be standard sizes.. a bit annoyed..

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ShiftZZ said:
Addeda dog trailer, the connection /link was too smallfir the bolt to go through. So I had to make the hole bigger, took some time, with a small handfile, eventually it worked

Hooked up the bike yesterday, got to Gib, it cMe off, lost it. Messaged AS bikes, no reply,at this point I was sort of stick in Gibraltar, rang them, tgey said it was s standard nut,available at any bike shop, tried two FAILED. Messaged them again no reply.
Got to a bike shop in La Linea, tgey found two nuts, the last two in the store.the nuts are nit standard, available anywhere. The ones that fitted were. See pic.

Just be aware AS parts may nit be standard sizes.. a bit annoyed..

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Not sure which bit you mean couldn't you just fit a new nut and bolt?
 
See an earlier thread about electric bikes.

If they cost less than a grand, then don't bother.
If they have engines not made by companies that you recognise (Sony, Makita, Bosch etc), then don't bother.
If they were made in China and not by a name you recognise (Trek, Raleigh, Scott, Bianchi, Brompton, etc etc), then don't bother.

The Chinese built and brand electric bikes and accessories that are currently flooding the European market are designed to be good for 1,000 miles or so, last 2-3 years and be unpreparable.
They do not use any standard parts, so even a simple chain or tyre replacement can be difficult and replacement of brake cables or blocks is impossible.
All the parts are of the lowest/cheapest quality they can get away with.
Most bike shops will refuse to do anything other than the most basic of repairs, as the parts are not available

If you can't afford a new £2-3,000 electric bike, then you are better off buying one second hand made by a reputable (usually German or Dutch*) company.

The new ones for £800 are simply next years landfill.


(* Many European brands have the frames made in China, but fit the bikes out, using quality parts, in Europe. This is not the same as the Chinese branded and built bikes made with the cheap parts.
However give it another decade, I'm sure China will be then producing the best electric bikes available! )
 
Maybe a bit of a silly comment by me but I would not have attached the trailer link to the spindle of the hub motor.
I can see you don’t have many options but I would find a way of attaching it to the frame.
The torque from the motor may give you regular problems as they often have additional location washers to prevent the spindle turning in the rear forks.

Also the trailer will be by putting side forces on the spindle as you turn in either direction

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Bike spindles are often "funny" sizes. I mounted our trailer hitch to the bike's spindle, but there was barely enough threads left to get enough of the nut on and it stripped the first few threads from the nut, so I made an aluminium bracket and picked up a couple of fixings on the wheel stay (looks like you have the same on your bike where the stand fits?) and its a much better job.
If you ever loose a nut again, a quick fix is to take the other nut off and saw it in half (through it's thickness, not it's diameter !) and you end up with two "thin" nuts that will get you home.
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Brains said:
If they cost less than a grand, then don't bother.
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I know loads of Funsters who have owned AS bikes for years plenty more than 7 years, Reasonably priced, a company that has been trading longer than their guarantee, always at every motorhome show, no matter your not even the original customer, they will repair and replace bits, often for nothing. I bet they are glad they bothered.
 
We bought budget e bikes but went for decathlon on the basis that they are more likely to have spares/service available for a while and less likely to go bust than some of the importers. On the AS bikes a company that has been in business a while with satisfied customers sounds a good bet what makes anyone think that a different brand would be better at spares
 
We bought two AS bikes at Stratford Fun meet which I believe was around 13 or 14 years ago we sold Wins last year still in excellent condition but stopped using it and I still use mine, all still good and no problem with battery.
I would now prefer one with Bosch crank drive but can’t justify as I’m a fair weather biker.

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12mm is a standard size but pitch may not be. 1.5mm or 2mm is a standard pitch size I think.
 
I have never come across after service like AS Bikes it has been excellent
We bought our bikes about 10 years ago and have used them and abused them. I have had 3 reasons to contact AS in this time, all when they would have been well out of any warranty.

Recently when using the saddle to move and lift the bike (part of the abusing bit!) it broke, although still leaving the bike rideable I called at the AS stand at the recent Malvern Show and explained the problem. A member of staff, new to me, took my details and I expected a phone call. Hey presto, a new saddle arrived in the post this morning.
I would add they have never made any charge.
Thank you AS bikes!

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Brains said:
See an earlier thread about electric bikes.

If they cost less than a grand, then don't bother.
If they have engines not made by companies that you recognise (Sony, Makita, Bosch etc), then don't bother.
If they were made in China and not by a name you recognise (Trek, Raleigh, Scott, Bianchi, Brompton, etc etc), then don't bother.

The Chinese built and brand electric bikes and accessories that are currently flooding the European market are designed to be good for 1,000 miles or so, last 2-3 years and be unpreparable.
They do not use any standard parts, so even a simple chain or tyre replacement can be difficult and replacement of brake cables or blocks is impossible.
All the parts are of the lowest/cheapest quality they can get away with.
Most bike shops will refuse to do anything other than the most basic of repairs, as the parts are not available

If you can't afford a new £2-3,000 electric bike, then you are better off buying one second hand made by a reputable (usually German or Dutch*) company.

The new ones for £800 are simply next years landfill.


(* Many European brands have the frames made in China, but fit the bikes out, using quality parts, in Europe. This is not the same as the Chinese branded and built bikes made with the cheap parts.
However give it another decade, I'm sure China will be then producing the best electric bikes available! )
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Sorry but this is grossly unfair to AS bikes. They were selling electric bikes before they became a faddy fashion statement. Mine is many years old. It have had two issues both of which have been sorted at no cost by Peter and his family. One of which would have made it very difficult for me to marshal Peterborough two years ago when I left my key at home.

Yes they are not the latest designs, flash colours schemes, 12" disc brakes etc, but are well built, and functional. While I can empathise with ShiftZZ and his issue, the attachment of dog trailers is something the majority of us are unlikely to do. I have never found anything other than metric sizes on the bike, so surprised he had trouble replacing the missing part abroad, but there you go.
 
Maybe the trailer bracket has fallen forward in ShiftZZ's photo but it looks like there is not much spindle thread for a nut to grip and the thread looks stripped. The hole in the bracket also looks oversized (?).

The nut will most likely be 12mm but it might be the thread pitch that is causing the difficulty in obtaining the right nut. A spindle like that is likely to have a fine thread, 1.0mm pitch. FWIW I buy all my nuts, bolts and washers online from Westfield Fasteners who stock a huge range of fixing products. I alway choose A4 s/s to avoid future corrosion.

jockaneezer's solution looks good, using the kickstand fixings and a fabricated bracket 👍
 
meanders said:
Sorry but this is grossly unfair to AS bikes. They were selling electric bikes before they became a faddy fashion statement. Mine is many years old. It have had two issues both of which have been sorted at no cost by Peter and his family. One of which would have made it very difficult for me to marshal Peterborough two years ago when I left my key at home.

Yes they are not the latest designs, flash colours schemes, 12" disc brakes etc, but are well built, and functional. While I can empathise with ShiftZZ and his issue, the attachment of dog trailers is something the majority of us are unlikely to do. I have never found anything other than metric sizes on the bike, so surprised he had trouble replacing the missing part abroad, but there you go.
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Out of interest why do you think my summary of the E-Bike market is 'grossly unfair to AS Bikes' (and similar companies). ?

I would expect AS Bikes and most cycle mechanics to broadly agree it's a fairly accurate assessment.

AS Bikes do not sell cheap Chinese imports, even their bottom of the range E-Bike costs over £1,000, they don't use Chinese motors, batteries or cheap 'single use' parts.

Unlike the cheap Chinese imports, AS Bikes bikes are not designed to only be good for 1,000 miles or 2-3 years (whichever comes first).
Whilst I don't currently own an AS Bike, if I was in the market for an E-Bike they are certainly a company who's products I'd give serious consideration.
 
Brains said:
Out of interest why do you think my summary of the E-Bike market is 'grossly unfair to AS Bikes' (and similar companies). ?
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Fair question and I had to go back to refresh myself.

The context (and title) of the whole thread was about AS bikes. Your post, while not specifically damning them, reads in a way that implies that ShiftZZ should have spent more than he did, and that his issues were because it was a cheap bike. I think I only paid £799 for mine. Certainly well under the £2-3,000 you quoted as being a minimum spend to avoid problems. I don't think I was alone in reading your post as critical of the bike in question, or AS bikes. Indeed our illustrious leader Jim jumped in to defend AS bikes.

If I misread the intention of your post while reading in the context of this thread, I apologise.
 
Jim said:
I know loads of Funsters who have owned AS bikes for years plenty more than 7 years, Reasonably priced, a company that has been trading longer than their guarantee, always at every motorhome show, no matter your not even the original customer, they will repair and replace bits, often for nothing. I bet they are glad they bothered.
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Agreed.

The cheapest (new) AS Bike available is £1,015

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meanders said:
Fair question and I had to go back to refresh myself.

The context (and title) of the whole thread was about AS bikes. Your post, while not specifically damning them, reads in a way that implies that ShiftZZ should have spent more than he did, and that his issues were because it was a cheap bike. I think I only paid £799 for mine. Certainly well under the £2-3,000 you quoted as being a minimum spend to avoid problems. I don't think I was alone in reading your post as critical of the bike in question, or AS bikes. Indeed our illustrious leader Jim jumped in to defend AS bikes.

If I misread the intention of your post while reading in the context of this thread, I apologise.
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It was a cut and paste job from an earlier thread on E-Bikes.
It was supposed to be informative on the general subject of E-bikes.
Basically don't be tempted to buy a cheap (new) E-Bike as they are a waste of money.
 
Brains said:
Basically don't be tempted to buy a cheap (new) E-Bike as they are a waste of money.
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not my experience....

I have a Woosh e-bilke. .. it has a Bafang rear wheel drive.. had it for 6 years
can't fault it .. If I recall correctly just under a grand..just noticed it's now £1400

17ah Panasonic battery
Tektro hydraulic brakes
Aluminium frame
Shimano Altus gears
I upgraded the saddle (as I do all my bikes) to a Brooks B17

Woosh are Chinese bikes assembled in Southend on sea

when I was camping in Wales in 2020 my charger stopped working, I emailed Woosh and they sent a replacement to the site by courier next day.. great service.. never had a problem since.

Nearly all aluminium frames including some renowned brands, have their bike frames and even bikes manufactured in China or Taiwan, such as Trek, Specialized, Cannondale, Giant and the Italian bike brand Colnago.

Bafang motors found on most electric bikes in Europe​

The brand is recognized worldwide for the quality of its pedal motors. Bafang now equips a large majority of electric bicycles in Europe and even claims to equip 40% of the market.

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It’s very easy to state that spending £2k to £3k on an EB otherwise buy second hand is the best course of action , presumably based on research and information supporting such a statement .
Many individuals are led by price eg Merc, BMW , Range Rover drivers etc but it doesn’t mean that the owners of a Ford, Peugeot or Kia are any worse off, in fact are probably financially far better off and probably equally as reliable in service.
 
Larrynwin said:
It’s very easy to state that spending £2k to £3k on an EB otherwise buy second hand is the best course of action , presumably based on research and information supporting such a statement .
Many individuals are led by price eg Merc, BMW , Range Rover drivers etc but it doesn’t mean that the owners of a Ford, Peugeot or Kia are any worse off, in fact are probably financially far better off and probably equally as reliable in service.
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exactly.. case in point

in 2015 we bought our first e-bikes, Kalkhoffs ..expensive marque, made in Germany.. bought them as they had good reviews ..not cheap, about £2.5k each.

Mine was ok but Jan's was nothing but trouble, it broke down in Wales on holiday.. had to send it back to the supplier for repair ..

After that we decide to sell them.. an unreliable bike is just a liability

my cheapie Chinese made Woosh has been far more reliable

Jan has a more expensive ..Giant ladies e-bike, which has been great..it was just under £2k

Let's not forget , even high end goods are made in China . iPhone, MacBooks, Fujifim Cameras.. etc as are nearly all other consumer goods... including bicycles, and yes, most e-bikes !
 
Glad I seen this post as looking for an Ebike. Nearly settled on one but went on a n other site and feedback was pants.
Definitely giving AS a call and go from there duw to the great reports here.
As for don't get Chinese, as others stated they make a vast amount of goods now for cheap and luxury brands.

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Bear said:
Glad I seen this post as looking for an Ebike. Nearly settled on one but went on a n other site and feedback was pants.
Definitely giving AS a call and ho from there dye to the great reports here.
As for don't get Chinese, as others stated they make a vast amount of goods now for cheap and luxury brands.
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Glad I seen this

I have 2 AS bikes. Electrobike MK3 20 inch wheels. Folding. Couple of years old.

We have just got back from 90 days and have decided to sell them purely because wife does not use.(balance issues) Stayed on the back of the van other than a couple of shopping rides for me and we are downsizing to a small panel van and not riding anymore.

Excellent bikes. We have the carry bags as well.

The photo is off the AS Bikes website so not mine but this is the bike we have. Although ours have front disc brakes

As I've just thrown this on here as I will be advertising them on the classified when I've more time. If your interested Pm me and we can sort a price.
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Fragle said:
Glad I seen this

I have 2 AS bikes. Electrobike MK3 20 inch wheels. Folding. Couple of years old.

We have just got back from 90 days and have decided to sell them purely because wife does not use.(balance issues) Stayed on the back of the van other than a couple of shopping rides for me and we are downsizing to a small panel van and not riding anymore.

Excellent bikes. We have the carry bags as well.

The photo is off the AS Bikes website so not mine but this is the bike we have. Although ours have front disc brakes

As I've just thrown this on here as I will be advertising them on the classified when I've more time. If your interested Pm me and we can sort a price.
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Thanks for the thought.
I'm more fitting of this one lol

Woosh Big Bear Plus | MTB electric bicycle from Woosh

The Woosh Big Bear Plus, a very sturdy electric bike for the traditionally built riders with 36V 15AH/17AH battery from Woosh.
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Son has a £5.5k carbon mountain bike and it had 2 new Bosch motors in within the first 2 years😳😳😳 I think they have changed the design but apparently they didn’t like getting to wet as is kills the bearings!! Just what you want on an off road bike🤔🤔
 
scotjimland said:
can't go wrong with a Woosh bike.. all good quality components with a Bafang hub drive .. i see my previous posts ..
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What model that un? As I see the bear is a front wheel drive.

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