Are new vans a good idea?

[Barclaybasher]

Apart from the cost my sons van (1991 Eribacar) - was mine - and my own van 2001 Mobilvetta there seems to be little advance. Both vans have Truma blown air heating, showers, Thetford toilets, fridges, cookers. No complicated electronics, no adblu, no limp modes and both are better built than current offerings. So why buy new?

 

[Janine]

I agree!

My van is 2006 - just pre change to the new shape and fancy electronics.

When I see people on the Autosleeper facebook group with problems, they are invariably the newer models.

 

[CazPaul]

I agree the older ones before 2007 are much better built, but then you are getting people on here saying” Get as new an engine as possible as you won’t be able to take older ones to a lot of places going forward”

 

[Barclaybasher]

I agree the older ones before 2007 are much better built, but then you are getting people on here saying” Get as new an engine as possible as you won’t be able to take older ones to a lot of places going forward”

Agree but I (and my son) are living for today - and his will be eventually exempt as an historic vehicle. Keeping up with ever changing rules is not realistic..

 

[Winger]

Yes, I like a vehicle that a mechanic can repair. Not a technician/fitter that keeps throwing new parts at it until the problem goes away

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[Coolcats]

Apart from the cost my sons van (1991 Eribacar) - was mine - and my own van 2001 Mobilvetta there seems to be little advance. Both vans have Truma blown air heating, showers, Thetford toilets, fridges, cookers. No complicated electronics, no adblu, no limp modes and both are better built than current offerings. So why buy new?

EU6 lez ulez

 

[Gromett]

I think older ones have their charms and their benefits. If you can find one that is rust free, then I think they are worth having.

All the internals can be redone. The engine and other running gear can all be serviced/replaced for a price.

My view is once the tin worm starts you are fighting a losing battle then and it is only a matter of when not if it dies.

 

[Gromett]

EU6 lez ulez

Only an issue if you want to go into major cities or towns?

 

[Coolcats]

Only an issue if you want to go into major cities or towns?

For the moment those zones will only get bigger and bigger and then the ulez zone will be the whole of the U.K./ Europe and the. We will want our MoHo’s powered by Hydrogen or an alternate fuel

 

[LesW]

EU6 lez ulez

There are probably thousands of places that won't have these, but nonetheless it's possibley the only reason that might make newer vehicles more attractive,
... but not to me.

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[Coolcats]

There are probably thousands of places that won't have these, but nonetheless it's possibley the only reason that might make newer vehicles more attractive,
... but not to me.

For the moment but my guess is political pressure will increase these areas large towns cities etc and will expand thier boundaries to thier bypass etc just look at what’s happens to London the area has just moved from central London right out to the edges.

 

[Lenny HB]

Well we like new vans, we have only ever bought new vans. Now we are old and have some savings it's nice to spend them on something nice.

Don't want a van that's been bashed about by other people perfectly cabable of doing it myself.

They are much nicer to drive, internal fittings are nicer and you can order the spec you want.

 

[Barchetta47]

I’m with Lenny, people on here should only buy new vans. In fact they should be buying new vans every two years at least if not more frequently after all a van is only new for a few months!! If at all possible could they order vans I want secondhand!! Lenny please start ordering Carthago S Plus’ if you can….

 

[cyberyacht]

Well we like new vans, we have only ever bought new vans. Now we are old and have some savings it's nice to spend them on something nice.

Don't want a van that's been bashed about by other people perfectly cabable of doing it myself.

They are much nicer to drive, internal fittings are nicer and you can order the spec you want.

Just so long as the new one arrives before you fall off your perch/ get a medical disqualification.

 

[Boldly]

Only an issue if you want to go into major cities or towns?

Soon all towns in Spain bigger than 50,000. That includes benidorm torrevieja benicassim etc.

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[nicholsong]

Soon all towns in Spain bigger than 50,000. That includes benidorm torrevieja benicassim etc.

But is the Spanish system for those towns going to be like the French system in most towns, whereby the restrictions will only be imposed during periods of high pollution.

I know France has a few cities/towns with permanent restrictions.

 

[Reallyretired]

I am all in favour of people buying new vans. If they didn't there would be a shortage of pre owned which would shoot the prices up. That said I would never be altruistic enough to buy one myself.
Older engines don't bother me, just avoid anywhere with restrictions, they are the sort of places I'd avoid anyway.

 

[JJ]

Soon all towns in Spain bigger than 50,000. That includes benidorm torrevieja benicassim etc.

Cripes... will my 2006 Burstner Privilige 605 been banned from Benidorm and Torrevieja and Benicassim?

OMG... what a shame!


JJ

 

[Guigsy]

For Ducato based vans, it appears that it's getting difficult to get parts for the x244 generation that disappeared in 2006. Especially parts that are right hand drive specific.

 

[Soycd]

One way of looking at it is if no one buys new vans then there won't be any old ones to buy...............

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[Barclaybasher]

One way of looking at it is if no one buys new vans then there won't be any old ones to buy...............

Agreed but they will still be too complex and break down.....

 

[funflair]

If you want a "new" van as in being the first owner, the first to sit on the toilet and the first to use the shower etc etc then it's your only option really, some people might like to spend the same money on a quality used van, decisions decisions

 

[funflair]

Agreed but they will still be too complex and break down.....

So keep buying a new one and it will be in warranty

 

[Old Gibber]

My new PVC has appreciated 40% in just 18 months. Where else can you get interest rates to match that?

 

[Burgo]

On newer models you do tend to get the lower emission motors, which generally are more flexible and powerful as well as more economic. Also you get usb points built in, as well as Led lighting to save on your power consumption when off hookup. Probably better insulation, as well as using less wood in the construction which can be prone to rot if damp gets in. So there can be advantages..

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[Guigsy]

Agreed but they will still be too complex and break down.....

More complex... But less likely to break down. Cars and vans are more reliable than they've ever been. And most of the time, the sensors and logic knows which bit is broken and it tells you. It's rare that wild goose chases happen (which is why dealers can employ fitters instead of proper mechanics).

 

[Landy Andy]

More complex... But less likely to break down. Cars and vans are more reliable than they've ever been. And most of the time, the sensors and logic knows which bit is broken and it tells you. It's rare that wild goose chases happen (which is why dealers can employ fitters instead of proper mechanics).

Dissagree. That’s not what I’m hearing, reading, or have experienced.

 

[Barclaybasher]

More complex... But less likely to break down. Cars and vans are more reliable than they've ever been. And most of the time, the sensors and logic knows which bit is broken and it tells you. It's rare that wild goose chases happen (which is why dealers can employ fitters instead of proper mechanics).

Cars are more reliable but a modern camper used rarely?
My Mobilvetta and sons Eriba still haven't reached 100k - 22 and 32 years old. Both just back from Poland. The Eriba I used for 9 years the Moby for 6. I puncture no breakdowns.

 

[Guigsy]

Dissagree. That’s not what I’m hearing, reading, or have experienced.

Most people don't do anything to their cars except get an oil change maybe once per year. Cars often get to 5 years old before they need preventative maintenance done. Look at the huge number of 15 old cars driving round.

 

[Coolcats]

Most people don't do anything to their cars except get an oil change maybe once per year. Cars often get to 5 years old before they need preventative maintenance done. Look at the huge number of 15 old cars driving round.

One of my vehicles is 17 years old with oil changes every year it is low milage (10k)and no maintenance as such other than a change of tyres and mot’s