April 12th?

I sort of understand the closure of showers, but not toilet facilities. When I open the pub I assume I am allowed to open the toilets, even if I can only serve my guests food and drink alfresco. I haven't been told not to let my guests use the loo...

As for me, in my van, I'd rather use my own loo than go walking all the way across a site, tripping over guide ropes in the dark. I don't have a shower so I might use one on a site. But generally I don't stay at sites and wash in the sink. Perhaps I'm a little strange. It's been said before...
I would like to think that if. Pubs are open for outside use,customers will need to use toilets,or you’ll have a load of punters wearing Billy Connelly waterproof pants,,now that would be a laugh
 
Probably overkill in decision making by GOV .uk
 
Some of the sites seem to be keeping there facilities closed all year, it is of course their choice. I will ge using my own again this year.
 
What I really want to say is, bloody hell why spend shit loads of money on a van with shit loads of facilities and then moan when your forced to use them
If you really really really want to use all the facilities that a campsite will provide then buy a tent
 
I’m sorry but I don’t understand the shower closure thing. Has anyone seen any proof anywhere of anyone catching Covid from using a shower?
I would hazard a guess the answer will be no, if not why not? It’s obviously really dangerous and you will catch Covid. We (well I) use soap in various forms in the shower and soap and water have been shown to kill the virus. Therefore the more soap and water used in facilities surely the more the virus is killed off.

You can catch covid by touching any surface previously touched by someone who's contagious. That would include a shower and toilet facilities. That will be why. To minimise the risk.

As for the soap and water argument, you don't apply it to the tap when you shower. Or the door. Etc. Or do you?

If they had it open they would have to clean it more frequently. Or after each use to be much use. In the same way I now have to spray the pub tables with virucide spray and allow to stand for five minutes between seating people at tables (when I was allowed to let people in at all).

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You can use the public toilets in the hospitals now and have been able to since the pandemic began where arguably you're the most at risk of catching the virus. Thing is, from April those most at risk per cohort will have had one or both jabs with the final group, those most like only to suffer mild symptoms remaining.

It's about liability insurance and rules it has nothing to do with Covid. If HMG announce on April 12th shower blocks and toilets can open on the 13th the wardens won't do anything fancy just simply walk up and unlock the doors.
 
Sorry, have to disagree on that one,,all sites are privately/business owned,if their insurance companies request they don’t open the shower/toilet facilties, then they don’t open, I don’t blame them either,we live in a blame culture,the last thing they would want is to be sued by someone claiming damages,, the alternative is don’t open at all,,,they certainly won’t do that,or they’d have no business at all,,, every motorhome has its own facilities,, that’s why we bought them,,obviously some camper vans don’t, but they have to make their own decisions on how they feel and whats appropriate for them.
 
I’m sorry but I don’t understand the shower closure thing. Has anyone seen any proof anywhere of anyone catching Covid from using a shower?
I would hazard a guess the answer will be no, if not why not? It’s obviously really dangerous and you will catch Covid. We (well I) use soap in various forms in the shower and soap and water have been shown to kill the virus. Therefore the more soap and water used in facilities surely the more the virus is killed off.
Covid is a respiratory virus, transmitted by particles in the air. Some shower blocks, especially in summer, are very open and fresh air circulates freely. Others are well draught-proofed and heated, and are exactly the right warm humid conditions for virus to spread through the air.

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On the subject of closed facilities on campsites
My take is this:-

Maybe some don’t agree with it
Maybe some don’t understand it or are ”confused” by it
Maybe some are annoyed by it

Just don’t go, wait until summer
 
I’m out on a limb here,,I actually enjoy doing all the things to do with my motorhome,water filling,emptying, toilet stuff,we have hardly ever used site facilities, not because they are bad,,( some are bloody amazing), it’s just the way we like to do things,,and surely that’s the basis of having an MH and doing your own thing,,it’s all a bloody big adventure for me,,,
Well said👍
 
The club sites without toilet block open, will they be charging the same price or reduce it to reflect the lack of facilities, I doubt it.
 
I'm not allowed to use public toilets but that's probably not something I should talk about
A bit like George Michael. Goes in to spend a penny and comes out with 2 coppers.

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I heard they have an automatic toilet cassette cleaning machine at Concierge Camping 🙂
Love2stay nr Shrewsbury has one, but the sluice one next to it is engineering marvel.
Ok folks this is how I see it
we have spent 14 months in lockdown as of 12th April we are allowed out to play but we are not allowed to crap/wash where someone else has to clean.
So the question is go away and use own facilities ?(answer A) or wait till all sites can open and offer full crap away facilities (answer b)
A from me, used on-board most of last year and found it fine except me little legs dangle in mid air when on the throne. :drunk:
 
Each to their own. I think that the chance of catching a verruca is more likely than Covid personality in site facilities.
Me, I didn’t buy a van for the pleasure of traipsing across a site for a communal number one or number two, or hopping around trying to get dressed in a wet shower cubicle only to have to change again when back at the van because I managed to drop my boxers in a damp patch.
Of course I use the toilet if passing by but otherwise using ones own thrown is one of the pleasures of owning a van.
I use a site for its location. I pay what I think is fair for that location. I only look at the access to water and waste as essential services because otherwise I am self contained. So I don’t expect a discount. If one considers toilet and shower essential then unfortunately one is going to have their legs crossed for some time yet. Guidelines, confusion and fear will only add to the delay IMHO.
On the subject of discounts, Are pubs and restaurants going to give a discount because you can only eat outside? Doubt it and more fool them if they do.
I am with Wabs on this. I find emptying the cassette all part of the fun, mildly therapeutic even. It’s about as close as I can get to legally taking a dump in the woods. All very tribal.
 
I bought my camper van last year because it had a toilet and shower onboard, as I really wanted to get away and not share facilities. I must admit, emptying the cassette toilet the first few times wasn't a job I was looking forward to carrying out, but now it's not a problem.

Before I did it for the first time, I watched a video on YouTube just to make sure I was doing it right!! 🤣
 
If we land on a site with good facilities I tend to use them as opposed the the onboard ones.
 
There is something satisfying about having emptied the black and grey water and topping up your tank.

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Am I dreaming? The CMC apologised for the lack of Toilet & shower facilities, so offered a substantial discount on all recent booking fees, to compensate for having to use our own.:sleep:
Don't wake me up yet, I am enjoying this dream while it lasts.:giggle:
LES
 

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