Another Tyre Choice Thread

[Kannon Fodda]

Sorry, have tried to wade through the multitude of threads.

My Michelin Agilis Camping "225/75R16CP. 116" alloy wheels, on a 2019 reg 5.4m Ducato PVC are wearing down. I have no idea of actual axle weights, originally checked at a rally and told "you are wasting our time " for being comfortably under, I have since made a lot of changes like extra underslung lpg , bike on rear towbar carrier, so expect rear at least is closer to whatever might have been permitted on a 3500kg van. Certainly rear is now wearing at least as hard if not harder than front.

So questions:

My van can stand idle for a few weeks. Even when using it, I'll arrive and park up for a few days before moving again. As a guide I've done 28k miles total since 2019. So am I better off with CP tyres intended for less regular use?

I'd like something much better grip on grassy rally fields. So is that a 4 season tyre or just something mud/snow rated, or are those the same? Off road tyres seems unnecessary.

Do I also need to change the unused spare wheel tyre? It's a steel wheel compared to the alloys so can't match anyway.

Seems to be recommendations on MHF for Continental (costly but brand I have heard of), or Falken or Toyo neither of who I had heard of. Does the brand matter? Do they wear equally, versus cost?

Is there a better place to buy? Four (perhaps five) new boots is going to hurt the wallet.

 

[Clivefog]

Falken and Toyo are well known brands. Been a few in praise of Toyo on here. I suspect that will be my tyre of choice next year.`
The spare should be ok will need checking of course.

 

[MisterB]

I recently put Falkens on mine but was close to buying the Nankings. Not sure you will need mountain/snow tyres as I don't know what your plans are, the Falkens were dearer than the Nankangs though.

You might need a lie down though Rob ...

I got mine from Protyre I think they're called, lots of outlets across the UK and they matched the on line discount when I rang to book the tyre change

 

[Kannon Fodda]

You might need a lie down though Rob ...

I read in another thread that you have some spare cash

Well aware unfortunately that 4 boots is going to cost more than I've got. This motorhoming lark is downright expensive. If I think of the outlay in five years on top of purchase - Comfortmatic failure, Annual Service, Timing Belt, Accident Repair, Numerous Upgrades. And my airbag light has just come on

And then is my car's wet belt replacement plus failed turbo, and the clutch is going.

So much for this winter's beer money earnings where every little hasn't helped

 

[Just smiffy]

I read in another thread that you have some spare cash

Well aware unfortunately that 4 boots is going to cost more than I've got. This motorhoming lark is downright expensive. If I think of the outlay in five years on top of purchase - Comfortmatic failure, Annual Service, Timing Belt, Accident Repair, Numerous Upgrades. And my airbag light has just come on

And then is my car's wet belt replacement plus failed turbo, and the clutch is going.

So much for this winter's beer money earnings where every little hasn't helped

As you know my van Rob, I put maxxis all season on and I’m very pleased with them and I’m a tyre nerd. Better ride by far from the continentals I replaced and better grip…

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[EuroTrotters]

Best tyre I have had, Michelin Alpin Winters

Followed by Toyo Observe

I changed to Nexen Winguard 2. Cant say I am impressed so-far.

 

[Nanniemate]

I would look at the best you can afford and not be too swayed by brand names

Get an all weather they come with the mountain logo

What do you mean by heavey wear .I've just had the tyres on the car checked and its been stood for nearly a year with little to no action and I was going to change all 4 but told not needed not even flat spots

Mitchleons on the van and random on the car ranging from continentals to random budget

A good tyre fitter is worth their weight in rubber.

Maybe get a price from a different part of the country?

 

[Cliffyboy16]

Hi Rob, I have just changed mine from Mit Agilis Camping to

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The ride is not hard don’t feel the bumps and rattles.
I kept my back tyres as lots of tread that someone may be grateful for but wrong size for yours.
JocknRita have attached a tyre pressure chart in previous email but it’s 4.5 for mine 6m Adria Compact

 

[Cliffyboy16]

Tyre pressures download

 

[maison]

Sorry, have tried to wade through the multitude of threads.

My Michelin Agilis Camping "225/75R16CP. 116" alloy wheels, on a 2019 reg 5.4m Ducato PVC are wearing down. I have no idea of actual axle weights, originally checked at a rally and told "you are wasting our time " for being comfortably under, I have since made a lot of changes like extra underslung lpg , bike on rear towbar carrier, so expect rear at least is closer to whatever might have been permitted on a 3500kg van. Certainly rear is now wearing at least as hard if not harder than front.

So questions:

My van can stand idle for a few weeks. Even when using it, I'll arrive and park up for a few days before moving again. As a guide I've done 28k miles total since 2019. So am I better off with CP tyres intended for less regular use?

I'd like something much better grip on grassy rally fields. So is that a 4 season tyre or just something mud/snow rated, or are those the same? Off road tyres seems unnecessary.

Do I also need to change the unused spare wheel tyre? It's a steel wheel compared to the alloys so can't match anyway.

Seems to be recommendations on MHF for Continental (costly but brand I have heard of), or Falken or Toyo neither of who I had heard of. Does the brand matter? Do they wear equally, versus cost?

Is there a better place to buy? Four (perhaps five) new boots is going to hurt the wallet.

We fitted Falken All season tyres last year.

Much better ride than CP tyres but our motorhome is used regularly so I can’t comment on how they are affected by long periods of being stationary.

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[Lenny HB]

Unless you are going to leave the van stationary for several months commercial van tyres will be fine.
Toyo & Falken both very good tyres, I fitted Toyo Observe to my last van. I was very pleased with them but being a winter tyre the wear rate on the front was quite high but cheap enough not to be too much of a worry.
Fed up with the CP tyres on the new van only done 6000 miles thinking of changing them probably give Falkens a try.

 

[Terry242]

+1 for Falken.
I changed mine from CP to the Falken Allseason as mentioned and I've been pleasantly surprised. I have gone from a load rating of 116 to 121(that's what they had) but I've reduced the pressure to 60psi. The ride travelling down to Spain was great, much better than the Michelin. And 60psi is slightly above the chart recommendation so I might lower that a little.
I don't usually leave the van standing for months at a time but should I, I figure that the higher load rating (stronger side wall) should stand me in good stead.
I got them from ProTyre for 540 or 560 the set.

Terry

 

[MartinandBev]

We fitted Falkens to the front in December, done 6000kms in them since then around Morocco and found them to be excellent, less harshness on the front (albeit still think need to change springs) but the tyres have made a massive difference and running on lower pressure than the Michelins previously fitted

 

[Kannon Fodda]

+1 for Falken.
I changed mine from CP to the Falken Allseason as mentioned and I've been pleasantly surprised. I have gone from a load rating of 116 to 121(that's what they had) but I've reduced the pressure to 60psi. The ride travelling down to Spain was great, much better than the Michelin. And 60psi is slightly above the chart recommendation so I might lower that a little.
I don't usually leave the van standing for months at a time but should I, I figure that the higher load rating (stronger side wall) should stand me in good stead.
I got them from ProTyre for 540 or 560 the set.

Terry

Interesting you fitted 121 rating. Seems few do the 116. Also seems ProTyre may have the best on average pricing.

But if I have 121 on wheels and the spare remains 116 Michelin on steel rather than alloys is that a problem?

 

[Lenny HB]

But if I have 121 on wheels and the spare remains 116 Michelin on steel rather than alloys is that a problem?

It will be OK for getting you home or to a tyre dept. Except in France & Spain where tyres in the same axle have to be the same.

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[Sue and Rick]

Continental CP albeit 15" on our van £142 each fitted locallyto us

 

[Mala1951]

Interesting you fitted 121 rating. Seems few do the 116. Also seems ProTyre may have the best on average pricing.

But if I have 121 on wheels and the spare remains 116 Michelin on steel rather than alloys is that a problem?

if you go to protyre do it through topcashback app and you will get cash back

 

[Nanniemate]

if you go to protyre do it through topcashback app and you will get cash back

They also do price match at my local branch