Advice on Gas installation/fittings please.

[Paul and Val]

I have imported to France, a British vehicle. The gas connections puzzle me completely and any advice is gratefully received.

Picture 1 It is fitted with an automatic changeover valve so that as one bottle empties, it changes over to the second bottle. (shown below).

Picture 2 below, shows the end of the flexible which fits to that unit. Will it be the same in France to the UK connection or will it need to be changed?

Picture 3 below. Shows the other end (the bottle end) of the flexible. What does this fit to please? it is too big to go to a regulator so A where does the regulator fit, and B what does this end fit to please?

Thank you very much for any assistance.
Kind regards
Paul

 

[Itsmcb]

Picture 3 shows a Pol fitting as used on British propane bottles.
You will need two new hoses to fit whatever new bottles you buy.

 

[Paul and Val]

Ok, thanks. So on a British system where does the regulator position?

 

[Bessy765]

Depends on the age of the van earlier ones had the regulator fitted to the bottle, later ones had a bulkhead regulator.

 

[Stealaway]

Have a look at the LPG Shop web site. They stock all you will need

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[dunnah01]

Ok, thanks. So on a British system where does the regulator position?

Picture 1. looks like the regulator and change over valve

 

[Lenny HB]

That looks so old I would rip it out and start again.

 

[gus-lopez]

Ok, thanks. So on a British system where does the regulator position?

picture 1 is the regulator & changeover valve in one. As Lenny HB said get a new all in one regulator/changeover valve.

 

[MisterB]

If you start from scratch as suggested, you might not need to remove everything, just the changeover valve and the tails (flexible pipes that go between the regulator/changeover valve) - it's def what I would be doing.

 

[Basildog]

What age is the van ?

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[Paul and Val]

What age is the van ?

It is a 2015 van, its actually a commercial ex-Tesco delivery van which has had a different non-refrigerated unit put on the back and now looks like this -

It may be a second hand change over unit. The pipes are marked 2016 but it would only of had gas added this year.
To help claify the system I have just spoken to the seller who until this morning had been on holiday. He says that the changeover valve is ALSO the regulator so it appears that I just need two pipes.
I am going to visit a gas fitter this afternoon and I will report on any progress.
Thanks
Paul

 

[The Wino]

I'd follow the advice to replace the lot. If you're going to change it to a motorhome you're going to have to redo most of the gas fittings and pipes anyway.

 

[Jimbohorlicks]

Will a mobile fish and chip van be a going concern in France?
Sort of stop me and fry one?

 

[Basildog]

It is a 2015 van, its actually a commercial ex-Tesco delivery van which has had a different non-refrigerated unit put on the back and now looks like this -
View attachment 670694
It may be a second hand change over unit. The pipes are marked 2016 but it would only of had gas added this year.
To help claify the system I have just spoken to the seller who until this morning had been on holiday. He says that the changeover valve is ALSO the regulator so it appears that I just need two pipes.
I am going to visit a gas fitter this afternoon and I will report on any progress.
Thanks
Paul

Now I can see what the vehicle actually is that regulator makes sense .
It’s a domestic/ commercial type of changeover regulator like this .

RF6030 Automatic Changeover Gas Regulator Kit with OPSO - UK POL

The RF6030 Automatic Changeover Gas Regulator Kit, equipped with an Over Pressure Shut Off (OPSO) feature for unmatched safety. Tailored for the UK market, this regulator kit comes with a UK POL connection, ensuring perfect compatibility with your LPG cylinders. Designed to provide a constant...

www.gasproducts.co.uk

 

[Paul and Val]

I'd follow the advice to replace the lot. If you're going to change it to a motorhome you're going to have to redo most of the gas fittings and pipes anyway.

It will be a business not a motorhome.

Will a mobile fish and chip van be a going concern in France?
Sort of stop me and fry one?

Ho ho! We are taking over a very good existing business but with this new van. If it does not continue as a going concern it will be a bit of a problem!

Now I can see what the vehicle actually is that regulator makes sense .
It’s a domestic/ commercial type of changeover regulator like this .

RF6030 Automatic Changeover Gas Regulator Kit with OPSO - UK POL

The RF6030 Automatic Changeover Gas Regulator Kit, equipped with an Over Pressure Shut Off (OPSO) feature for unmatched safety. Tailored for the UK market, this regulator kit comes with a UK POL connection, ensuring perfect compatibility with your LPG cylinders. Designed to provide a constant...

www.gasproducts.co.uk

Thank you. That is exactly it. I have to say, I appreciate all the comments but just don't understand all the comments to replace everything come what may. That makes absolutely no sense to me.
I have complete confidence in the seller who has been superb. If I was in the UK I would just add bottles and go but the connections here are different.

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[Raul]

I have the same regulator ( continental) with Tee each side so I can connect 4 bottles. It’s for a off grid house. I use 4 pigtails ( hoses) w20 fits to regulator tee, an LH20 to the bottle. Something like this

Butane 500mm Pigtail Hose Pipe LPG Calor Gas Changeover Caravan Motorhome M20 | eBay

Butane 500mm LPG Pigtail. Bottle Connection: Butane. Caravan Connection: M20 / W20. High pressure LPG hose. Date Coded. Bookmark Us.

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[Lenny HB]

I suggested replacing the regulator because it looks old and tatty, as you say possibly a second hand one was fitted certainly quite a few years old.

 

[Paul and Val]

I suggested replacing the regulator because it looks old and tatty, as you say possibly a second hand one was fitted certainly quite a few years old.

I don't see any evidence of it being tatty. I don't to be frank understand the reason for replacing it. I think that this type of fitting either works or does not. I don't mind the company using a used one. The gas pipes etc have been fitted to a high standard and are very neat.
I do genuinely appreciate the views and responses.
This Forum is always very helpful.
Have a good evening and kind regards
Paul

 

[Basildog]

I don't see any evidence of it being tatty. I don't to be frank understand the reason for replacing it. I think that this type of fitting either works or does not. I don't mind the company using a used one. The gas pipes etc have been fitted to a high standard and are very neat.
I do genuinely appreciate the views and responses.
This Forum is always very helpful.
Have a good evening and kind regards
Paul

Good luck with your venture however you have much to learn about gas installations and the requirements for commercial use .
Alarm bells are ringing for me as soon as I spotted the unnecessary / inappropriate use of PTFE tape.
Gas regulators have to be changed at manufacturers recommended replacement dates or according to the requirements of the relevant standards.
They don’t just work or not as you say , all regulators have a date on them,
If you are going to be using that installation commercially in France , my guess is you are going to have fun getting it certified.

 

[Paul and Val]

Good luck with your venture however you have much to learn about gas installations and the requirements for commercial use .
Alarm bells are ringing for me as soon as I spotted the unnecessary / inappropriate use of PTFE tape.
Gas regulators have to be changed at manufacturers recommended replacement dates or according to the requirements of the relevant standards.
They don’t just work or not as you say , all regulators have a date on them,
If you are going to be using that installation commercially in France , my guess is you are going to have fun getting it certified.

Thank you for the lecture and positive comments. Always fun.

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