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I am married to an Irish citizen we live in UK and I am British. We travel around Europe for four to five months every year
Now How do I travel through Europe for more than 90 days
Do I require a visa
Any advice greatly appreciated
 
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Ok thanks for that on last minute investigation it will take about three years and two grand ISH
Despite the fact that have lived and worked in southern ireland and married to an Irish man
 
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No visa required. As the spouse of an Irish citizen you are afforded the same rights of free movement within the EU. You will still have your U.K. passport stamped in/out at EU external borders so retain copies of ferry tickets etc. as evidence of travelling together - plus marriage certificate - in case you have to prove it.
 
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Bawa said:
Ok thanks for that on last minute investigation it will take about three years and two grand ISH
Despite the fact that have lived and worked in southern ireland and married to an Irish man
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Not in my experience. My wife is also Irish with me being English and I got a paddy passport in a matter of weeks and to the best of my recollection under £100.
 
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PhilandMena said:
Utter rubbish! My wife is also Irish with me being English and I got a paddy passport in a matter of weeks and to the best of my recollection under £100.
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Can you give some more detail before rubbishing it?

How did you satisfy the birth, descent or naturalisation requirements?
 
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PhilandMena said:
Utter rubbish! My wife is also Irish with me being English and I got a paddy passport in a matter of weeks and to the best of my recollection under £100.
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Not utter rubbish. Depends on when you got married and your residence, doesn't it? You can apply after 3 years of marriage and three years of 'reckonable residence' in Ireland. (Will any country give you a passport at the drop of a hat just because you've married one of their citizens?)

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PhilandMena said:
Utter rubbish! My wife is also Irish with me being English and I got a paddy passport in a matter of weeks and to the best of my recollection under £100.
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I think you meant, I found the process very easy and cheap. What were the problems and can I help you?



Welcome Bawa, I am sure as others have said, you can just travel with your spouse no problems you lucky person. :)
 
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Orion said:
Can you give some more detail before rubbishing it?

How did you satisfy the birth, descent or naturalisation requirements?
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For most countries (excluding the UK)
Once you are married to a citizen of that country after a period of time you can apply for citizenship
Birth, Descent etc are irrelevant
 
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Brains said:
For most countries (excluding the UK)
Once you are married to a citizen of that country after a period of time you can apply for citizenship
Birth, Descent etc are irrelevant
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No, in this case if birth and descent are not applicable then the ‘etc’ is very relevant.

My wife is Irish, my children who hold U.K. passports can, have and are, successfully applying for Irish (EU) passports. I cannot as I do not satisfy the requirement of having resided in Ireland continuously for a period of 3 years.

So it’s not simply an automatic right to have one after a certain period of time, and hopefully PhilandMena will come back and explain how he obtained his?

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Two on Tour said:
Harvey, Carpmart, you have real-life experience of galavanting about Europe for more than 90 days on the back of Serina's Irish passport, can you clarify things ?
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Firstly, welcome Bawa

As Two on Tour suggests, I have now travelled with my Irish spouse across EU borders numerous times, including three trips of over the 90 day threshold, all since the final Brexit leave date.

As Orion describes perfectly, Spouses of Irish citizens cannot get their own Irish passport without satisfying residency requirements. Marriage on its own does not qualify you!

There is no (real) additional status afforded by one’s own passport, (save for independent travel over 90 days) as provided one is travelling with the Irish passported spouse, one is afforded the same travel rights under EU 2004/38… ✔️

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Orion said:
No, in this case if birth and descent are not applicable then the ‘etc’ is very relevant.

My wife is Irish, my children who hold U.K. passports can, have and are, successfully applying for Irish (EU) passports. I cannot as I do not satisfy the requirement of having resided in Ireland continuously for a period of 3 years.

So it’s not simply an automatic right to have one after a certain period of time, and hopefully PhilandMena will come back and explain how he obtained his?

ie.iasservices.org.uk

Get an Irish passport if your spouse is Irish | IAS Ireland

If you are married or in a civil partnership with an Irish citizen, you may be eligible for Irish citizenship. Read more about how to apply today.
ie.iasservices.org.uk
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Looks like it's time to rent the garden shed of an Irish relative.

Fill in standard 'Residential Tenancy Agreement' form (W H Smiths) and pay rent (€1/PCM) to the landlord.
Get a utility bill (Mobile phone, pay your 'landlords' Netflix bill)
And get yourself on the local electoral register if that is possible.

After 3 years you can prove long term residence
(If I had an Irish wife, I'd have started all this the day after the vote, as we all knew exactly what was going to happen from that point onwards!)
 
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Orion said:
No visa required. As the spouse of an Irish citizen you are afforded the same rights of free movement within the EU. You will still have your U.K. passport stamped in/out at EU external borders so retain copies of ferry tickets etc. as evidence of travelling together - plus marriage certificate - in case you have to prove it.
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Hi I’m about to apply for my Irish passport as my mother was born in Ireland, however do you know where it is legally printed that your spouse can ‘piggy back’ on your passport? We both have uk passports. Tia
 
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Read the directive EU2004/38 and look at EU citizens ‘right to roam’ under this directive and have the spouse/family with them whilst exercising this right. ✔️

Carpe Diem said:
Hi I’m about to apply for my Irish passport as my mother was born in Ireland, however do you know where it is legally printed that your spouse can ‘piggy back’ on your passport? We both have uk passports. Tia
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Carpmart said:
Read the directive EU2004/38 and look at EU citizens ‘right to roam’ under this directive and have the spouse/family with them whilst exercising this right. ✔️
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And have a look through the relevant sections of the EU Practical Handbook for Border Guards for information on what to expect when entering or leaving the zone.

Contrary to the information being erroneously put about that all a third-country national need do is present a marriage certificate when accompanying an EU citizen, it makes it quite clear that their passport must be stamped unless they also are in possession of a residence certificate (Section 6 page 75).

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Orion said:
And have a look through the relevant sections of the EU Practical Handbook for Border Guards for information on what to expect when entering or leaving the zone.

Contrary to the information being erroneously put about that all a third-country national need do is present a marriage certificate when accompanying an EU citizen, it makes it quite clear that their passport must be stamped unless that are in possession of a residence certificate (Section 6 page 75).

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Thank you.
 
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