4 Season Tyres - Ride quality

[Bazzaa]

Hi All
Am aware the tyres question/ride quality is often asked, we have an Adria Compact arriving sometime in the new year and I believe it to have Continental 4 season CP tyres as standard, are these likely to be better than the dreaded hard as nails ride Michelin Agilis CP's we've put up with previously?
Would Toyo Observe Van 4 season or Falken All Seasons as recommended on these forums improve ride quality further?
Have had rear air assist before and found it to improve stability but not ride quality.
All the very best for the season.

 

[Mikeco]

I’ve put Bridgestone Duravis All season tyres on my van and they are very good,

 

[rb62]

Maxiss AS/AL 2 all season three peak marked on ours great improvement.

 

[Just smiffy]

Hi All
Am aware the tyres question/ride quality is often asked, we have an Adria Compact arriving sometime in the new year and I believe it to have Continental 4 season CP tyres as standard, are these likely to be better than the dreaded hard as nails ride Michelin Agilis CP's we've put up with previously?
Would Toyo Observe Van 4 season or Falken All Seasons as recommended on these forums improve ride quality further?
Have had rear air assist before and found it to improve stability but not ride quality.
All the very best for the season.

The continentals are likely to give a good ride because they’ll be new, so get you money’s worth out of them first, could be a few years before they harden up and start to give a harsh ride if at all…

I had 5yr continentals on my pvc with good tread on them but the ride was harsh and changed to Maxxis vansmart all season 3 peak 121 load tyres… the ride changed like night and day and so far no problems at all…

Edit: pressure has a lot to do with it too…

 

[Guigsy]

I went from Michelin Agilis Campers to Continental Vanco 4Seasons. They are significantly more comfortable and grippier. Although most of the comfort is probably because I used the continental handbook which says for my axle load, tyre rating, size and model, I can run 50psi instead of the 80psi the Campers said they needed.

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[dunnah01]

Continental don't follow the ETRMA guidance so you can run pressures that match your axle weights rather than the CP 80 psi guidance so you should get a reasonable ride comfort

 

[ManTheVan]

Michelin Agilis Cross climates give us a super comfortable ride and are very grippy too.

 

[jumar]

Michelin Agilis Cross climates give us a super comfortable ride and are very grippy too.

That's our choice too...had a few sets of those..

 

[Ingwe]

Michelin Agilis Cross climates give us a super comfortable ride and are very grippy too.

This has been our experience too. They replaced Michelin Campers which gave a hard, not reassuring grip.

 

[Two on Tour]

Michelin Agilis CrossClimate's here as well.

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[Nikwilko]

Recently fitted falken all season van11 tyres. The original agilis cp tyres didn't inspire confidence in winter conditions. Running slightly higher pressures +4psi than falken recommend. Quiet and comfortable ride.

 

[poppycamper]

Michelin Cross Climate Agilis here aswell...
However I do think there is confusion by some between the Michilen Cross Climate Agilis and the Michelin Cross Climate Camper.... totally differant tyre...
First is van based.. the second camper based..

 

[The joker]

Recently fitted falken all season van11 tyres. The original agilis cp tyres didn't inspire confidence in winter conditions. Running slightly higher pressures +4psi than falken recommend. Quiet and comfortable ride.

What he said

 

[cyberyacht]

I went from Michelin Agilis Campers to Continental Vanco 4Seasons. They are significantly more comfortable and grippier. Although most of the comfort is probably because I used the continental handbook which says for my axle load, tyre rating, size and model, I can run 50psi instead of the 80psi the Campers said they needed.

So did I. To be honest I can't say I noticed any major difference although I am running them at lower pressures.

 

[IRHP]

Recently fitted falken all season van11 tyres. The original agilis cp tyres didn't inspire confidence in winter conditions. Running slightly higher pressures +4psi than falken recommend. Quiet and comfortable ride.

Same. I asked Falken about pressure and I thought they'd made a mistake by quoting such low pressure so asked them to check and they said the same. I'm running with a bit more than they said.

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[Guigsy]

50psi makes the tyres look pretty baggy!

 

[JockandRita]

Same. I asked Falken about pressure and I thought they'd made a mistake by quoting such low pressure so asked them to check and they said the same. I'm running with a bit more than they said.

I'm running our Falken Euro Van 2 All Season at 4 x bar pressure all round, on our 68500Kgs Iveco Daily based MH.

Cheers,

Jock.

 

[PP Bear]

I have these, they’re awesome and far better than the previous Michelin I had fitted

 

[poppycamper]

I have these, they’re awesome and far better than the previous Michelin I had fitted

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Yes indeed... i have the Agilis version.. not the camping version..
What was your previous Michelin?
Would be interesting to see a true comparison between the Cross Climate Agilis and the new Cross Climate Camper.. as apposed to the old Michelin Camper tyres..

 

[PP Bear]

Yes indeed... i have the Agilis version.. not the camping version..
What was your previous Michelin?
Would be interesting to see a true comparison between the Cross Climate Agilis and the new Cross Climate Camper.. as apposed to the old Michelin Camper tyres..

Mine were Agilis Camping I think, I had them on for 10 years and only changed them as that’s what’s recommended by Michelin themselves, they still had good tread left on them and gave plenty of grip.

However they weren’t very good on wet grass etc, so needed towing out a few times, where as these are much better

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[bigtwin]

Michelin Cross Climate Agilis here aswell...
However I do think there is confusion by some between the Michilen Cross Climate Agilis and the Michelin Cross Climate Camper.... totally differant tyre...
First is van based.. the second camper based..

And the difference is?

Ian

 

[poppycamper]

And the difference is?

Ian

The camper has tougher side walls to accommodate those who leave their motorhomes parked for long periods of time and therefore less prone to sidewall deformation and flat spotting the other is designed to be used and therefore has more flexible side walls giving a much more comfortable ride and handling..

 

[bigtwin]

The camper has tougher side walls to accommodate those who leave their motorhomes parked for long periods of time and therefore less prone to sidewall deformation and flat spotting the other is designed to be used and therefore has more flexible side walls giving a much more comfortable ride and handling..

If that’s the case then presumably Morelos and Concordes and the like are rolling along on ‘unsuitable’ tyres as camper specific tyres are not, generally?) available for those.

Or is this a myth pedalled by tyre manufacturers to charge more for camper tyres. Do van/lorry tyres not have an equal number of, or more, plies in their construction?

Ian

 

[Carpmart]

I'm running our Falken Euro Van 2 All Season at 4 x bar pressure all round, on our 68500Kgs Iveco Daily based MH.

Cheers,

Jock.

Wow.. 68.5T - looks a good bit smaller than that Jock!

 

[JockandRita]

on our 68500Kgs Iveco Daily based MH.

Wow.. 68.5T - looks a good bit smaller than that Jock!

Bleddy fat fingers Harvey.

Cheers,

Jock.

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[poppycamper]

that’s the case then presumably Morelos and Concordes and the like are rolling along on ‘unsuitable’ tyres as camper specific tyres are not, generally?) available for those.

How unsuitable.. plenty on here do not see the need for camper tyres...
A Xxxx kg van is the exact same as an Xxxx kg motorhome... so van tyres perfectly suitable!

 

[badgerskins]

So I need to replace my front tyres on my Classic Hymer S670 4.6T camper. It currently has Avon 185/80R 14C 102/100R AVANZA AV11. They’ve been on the van for almost exactly 5 years and still have good tread but yesterday’s MOT put an advisory on the two front ones due to perishing side walls.
I’ve seen a few mentions of Toyo tyres but they don’t seem to have 185/80 only 185/75. I don’t know what the difference is or if it matters. I will be going to Northern Spain in Feb so I need something all season.
Any recommendations welcome

 

[JockandRita]

I will be going to Northern Spain in Feb so I need something all season.
Any recommendations welcome

Have you looked at Falken Eurovan 2 All Season, or the Maxiss equivalent?

Good luck,

Jock.

 

[Hymer Tony B]

Maxiss AS/AL 2 all season three peak marked on ours great improvement.

Same on mine they have replaced michelin cp tyres, great improvement in ride.

 

[MichaelT]

How unsuitable.. plenty on here do not see the need for camper tyres...
A Xxxx kg van is the exact same as an Xxxx kg motorhome... so van tyres perfectly suitable!

Only difference is van tyres are designed for vans that are driven for 8 to 10 hours a day with generally a variable weight (delivery van full in morning empty at night) unlike a motorhome that will have a constant load and be sat around most of its life even if you use it regularly.

Not saying van tyres are any better or worse but that's why camper tyres are different with reinforced sidewalls etc.