Do 2020 and later Ducato locks still get spiked?

[Ian_H]

Following on from recent and other threads about the ease with which ducato driver doors can be opened by pushing a screwdriver or similar up under the lock, do funsters have any personal experience of whether post 2020 vans are still vulnerable or not? I understand that Fiat improved the design around 2019.

 

[swemmy666]

Its odd that major manufacturers don't put hook deadlocks on these as standard, likely cost between 25-50 per door if done during manufacture. Think it indicative of the distain they have for their customers...

 

[swemmy666]

As I'm in the market specifically for a PVC (plan A), I've been scanning the dealer websites. I must thave seen 100+ PVCs and not one of them seems to have any additional security, deadlocks, in your face alarms systems etc etc. So how common is it for addional security, how common are issues

 

[Ian_H]

From the lack of responses of any victims, it looks to me like spiking of 2020 onwards Ducatos cannot be much of an issue
Or nobody is talking to me

 

[Jim]

From the lack of responses of any victims, it looks to me like spiking of 2020 onwards Ducatos cannot be much of an issue
Or nobody is talking to me

It's just that it's not a very common occurrence.

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[hja]

We have a 2021 registered ducato. Simple answer, no idea. It has a factory fitted immobiliser and a dealer fitted tracker.

 

[Ian_H]

We have a 2021 registered ducato. Simple answer, no idea. It has a factory fitted immobiliser and a dealer fitted tracker.

Thats what our 2023 one has too.

 

[Badknee]

I must thave seen 100+ PVCs and not one of them seems to have any additional security, deadlocks, in your face alarms systems etc etc. So how common is it for addional security, how common are issues

We must be bucking the trend then, alarm, tracker, immobiliser, disc lock on steering wheel, pedal lock, obd port cover, straps between front doors, 50 cal machine gun at side of bed. Anything else I forgot?

I may or may not be joking about the 50 cal

 

[unclestinky]

Following on from recent and other threads about the ease with which ducato driver doors can be opened by pushing a screwdriver or similar up under the lock, do funsters have any personal experience of whether post 2020 vans are still vulnerable or not? I understand that Fiat improved the design around 2019.

Hi
I have 2022 Ducato and fitted a door plate.
It was obvious on fitting that it could have been easily spiked. The bar that operates the central locking was exposed and vulnerable.

 

[Vaman]

I have a drivers door plate and hook dead locks on all doors. Not cheap but I feel it's worth it given the price of a van these days.

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[stevewagner]

Our Fiat Hobby was broken into at Illkely Moor some years ago. They got in through the front passenger door which did not have an exterior key lock. The police called it bananaring. They said they grab the top and bottom of the door at the same time and distort it which releases the catch.

 

[Nikwilko]

Have a May2021 built van and the drivers door has no reinforcement plate around the handle as standard. Fitted proplates DIY for a basic level of security.

 

[swemmy666]

So are the Ducato's the only base van that are affected by this style of attack, I thought the Fiats and Peugeots were very similar?

 

[Cliffyboy16]

Following on from recent and other threads about the ease with which ducato driver doors can be opened by pushing a screwdriver or similar up under the lock, do funsters have any personal experience of whether post 2020 vans are still vulnerable or not? I understand that Fiat improved the design around 2019.

I have an Fiat Adria Compact 2019 and my cab doors have been spiked a few times (going to get Proplates fitted as I have just noticed the area is getting rusty) but as I have lockable internal Heolocks on the cab doors and a cat 1 alarm - they have not succeeded in gaining entry as it only opens 2 mm before alarm starts blaring. Luckily on all occasions it has been outside in the road near my house, so I have watched them (behind curtains )being frustrated as to why they cannot open the door

 

[Millcourt]

I have an Fiat Adria Compact 2019 and my cab doors have been spiked a few times (going to get Proplates fitted as I have just noticed the area is getting rusty) but as I have lockable internal Heolocks on the cab doors and a cat 1 alarm - they have not succeeded in gaining entry as it only opens 2 mm before alarm starts blaring. Luckily on all occasions it has been outside in the road near my house, so I have watched them (behind curtains )being frustrated as to why they cannot open the door

Perhaps externally-visible deadlocks would be a better deterrent in your situation. Internal Heolocks may be useful as an added means of security when sleeping onboard at night. However if the thief cannot see them they will not deter. Hopefully, with a visible additional deadlock the thief will seek an easier target.

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[swemmy666]

I have an Fiat Adria Compact 2019 and my cab doors have been spiked a few times (going to get Proplates fitted as I have just noticed the area is getting rusty) but as I have lockable internal Heolocks on the cab doors and a cat 1 alarm - they have not succeeded in gaining entry as it only opens 2 mm before alarm starts blaring. Luckily on all occasions it has been outside in the road near my house, so I have watched them (behind curtains )being frustrated as to why they cannot open the door

Not sure proplates will stop attempts, maybe you should highlight existing holes, "try this hole, rather than make a new one, and fail like those before you"

 

[Cliffyboy16]

Not sure proplates will stop attempts, maybe you should highlight existing holes, "try this hole, rather than make a new one, and fail like those before you"

Perhaps externally-visible deadlocks would be a better deterrent in your situation. Internal Heolocks may be useful as an added means of security when sleeping onboard at night. However if the thief cannot see them they will not deter. Hopefully, with a visible additional deadlock the thief will seek an easier target.

I have external Thule locks on my other doors & alarmed. I have seen the damaged caused by additional internal locks ie garrison by determined thief’s trying to jammy open the doors of trade vehicles in my area. Pro plates are to cover the external damaged caused by lock picking as I notice just recently an area of rust hence I wish it to be repaired and covered

 

[Ridgeway]

however a vehicle comes from the factory as it’s a common design then people will always get around it, they’ll just figure it out. Adding anything additional to factory is always a deterrent

 

[Shrimp]

Our Hymer has extra locks on Hab & drivers doors, probably fitted by original owner, it also had an alarm with internal sensors.
It was still broken into thru the window!

 

[BlackIce]

I have a 2020 Ducato PVC. The door locks have not been modified and are still prone to spiking. I fitted pro plates which have an internal lock protection box.
Last week I had deadlocks fitted by Absolute van locks in Dewsbury. They came out and fitted locks to all the doors in about 2 hours

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[cookie]

Heosafe locks on front doors and anti spike plate. Cat 1 alarm and tracker ,pedal lock.

 

[Rick@62]

I have a 2020 Ducato PVC. The door locks have not been modified and are still prone to spiking. I fitted pro plates which have an internal lock protection box.
Last week I had deadlocks fitted by Absolute van locks in Dewsbury. They came out and fitted locks to all the doors in about 2 hours View attachment 984241

Hi there. I was just asking about these on another thread. I am looking at getting the same fitted to my ducato based 2019 Swift Compact.
Could I ask what they charged? I have been quoted between £300 and £400 supplied and fitted at my home, that’s including VAT.
Did they use a treatment on the bare metal after cutting into the door frame and door itself?
Many thanks
Rick.

 

[Badknee]

Last week I had deadlocks fitted by Absolute van locks in Dewsbury. They came out and fitted locks to all the doors in about 2 hours

#MeToo

 

[gus-lopez]

Perhaps externally-visible deadlocks would be a better deterrent in your situation.

Perhaps watching them a crossbow might be a better option?

 

[Silverman]

#MeToo


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