Swivel seat security

[Two on Tour]

Can I ask, did fitting simply involve drilling a 14mm hole?

Yes, and to stop it being lifted up to get a disc cutter to the pin, I glued a 6mm thick washer to the pin.

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[ManTheVan]

That’s amazing help and detail. You’re a diamond! Thanks!

 

[68c]

Can't they just unbolt the seat and swop with the unlocked passenger seat, only four easily accessible bolts.

 

[dpsuk999]

Have you felt the weight of these seats?? Also I’m not sure they would be hanging around if an alarm is going off too ???

 

[the1andonly]

Use as one line of defence, castle defence mentality. Or another effect persuade them to move on to an easier target. Always keep one line of defence hidden (don't tell anyone about the 3 pigmies with poison darts ive hidden in xxx?) Can't tell you where.

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[Ninjabob]

I have washers under my Patriot so as to not allow cutting from underneath. I suspect it will just spin with an angle grinder attack. You need the short shank version. The longer version is for use with a chain.

 

[the1andonly]

Turning seat round

Has anyone got any photos of how to turn seat round and drill and padlock it had a look yesterday but couldn't see any way this can be done ,I can put a chain round through the hole then lock it but would prefer to not have the chain .thanks

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Another member of the patriot club

 

[ManTheVan]

Now fitted! Thanks Two on Tour.

 

[IRHP]

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I have washers under my Patriot so as to not allow cutting from underneath. I suspect it will just spin with an angle grinder attack. You need the short shank version. The longer version is for use with a chain.

Yes it would spin and It’s a good line of defence and deterrent but an angle grinder would go through the metal plating of the seat base like knife through butter

 

[Two on Tour]

Yes it would spin and It’s a good line of defence and deterrent but an angle grinder would go through the metal plating of the seat base like knife through butter

I looked at the practicalities of your statement of removing the Patriot security lock with a cordless grinder and I feel that at least in the way I have fitted mine that the removal with a cordless grinder are unfounded.

I own a Dewalt cordless grinder, the choice of most would-be thief's so offered up my grinder in many positions to try and get to the rear of the Patriot security lock to cut through the seat base plate as you suggest can be done and as you can see from the photos that this is not possible. So although you could cut up the sides of the lock, I'm happy that the rear can not be accessed.

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[Richard n Ann]

I looked at the practicalities of your statement of removing the Patriot security lock with a cordless grinder and I feel that at least in the way I have fitted mine that the removal with a cordless grinder are unfounded.

I own a Dewalt cordless grinder, the choice of most would-be thief's so offered up my grinder in many positions to try and get to the rear of the Patriot security lock to cut through the seat base plate as you suggest can be done and as you can see from the photos that this is not possible. So although you could cut up the sides of the lock, I'm happy that the rear can not be accessed.

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Impressive ?better than our pad lock underneath and high vis too. Ordered one off ebay £38.61 sportsbikeshop seller ?

 

[Ninjabob]

I located mine so when I had the seat turned I could move the seat where I need it. You would have to make a large diamond shape cut in the base to remove the lock. My idea was really to slow them down and make them have to make considerable noise doing it. I have another idea as well - a long shank quality padlock (Ingersoll Impregnable) through the steering universal joint that interferes with turning the wheel and again difficult to get to with an angle grinder as both sides of the shank need to be cut and it is behind the pedals. The shank in the picture is normally to the back of the joint.

 

[IRHP]

I located mine so when I had the seat turned I could move the seat where I need it. You would have to make a large diamond shape cut in the base to remove the lock. My idea was really to slow them down and make them have to make considerable noise doing it. I have another idea as well - a long shank quality padlock (Ingersoll Impregnable) through the steering universal joint that interferes with turning the wheel and again difficult to get to with an angle grinder as both sides of the shank need to be cut and it is behind the pedals. The shank in the picture is normally to the back of the joint.View attachment 370480

padlock on the steering colum

I looked at the practicalities of your statement of removing the Patriot security lock with a cordless grinder and I feel that at least in the way I have fitted mine that the removal with a cordless grinder are unfounded.

I own a Dewalt cordless grinder, the choice of most would-be thief's so offered up my grinder in many positions to try and get to the rear of the Patriot security lock to cut through the seat base plate as you suggest can be done and as you can see from the photos that this is not possible. So although you could cut up the sides of the lock, I'm happy that the rear can not be accessed.

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Fair point.

 

[ManTheVan]

For what it’s worth, I found that I had to file out the 14mm hole a bit in order to get the patriot to go through, so either my new 14mm Bosch HSS bit is a fraction too small, or the patriot shank is a fraction over 14mm. All done now, anyway.

 

[Richard n Ann]

More heavy duty than it looks, very pleased ?
Just oiled the O ring ?
Clearance is 10.5mm (maximum disc or seat base thickness)

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[Richard n Ann]

They're a tenner cheaper on XLmoto including shipping ??????????

 

[Wombles]

They're a tenner cheaper on XLmoto including shipping ??????????

Good spot though & thank you for posting - we've just joined the Patriot club!
Low stock left so if anyone else wants this then be quick https://www.xlmoto.co.uk/search/result?q=patriot&s=patriot#?pl&t=1 & use code WELCOME2020 for extra 10% discount so £25.92 delivered

 

[Richard n Ann]

Why is the storage bracket shaped in this way? Is it to clip on to a motorcycle somewhere, no instructions with it and the hole is a bit big for a screw. I found the cheaper one at XL moto by Googling for photos of the bracket ????

 

[Landy Andy]

Why is the storage bracket shaped in this way? Is it to clip on to a motorcycle somewhere, no instructions with it and the hole is a bit big for a screw. I found the cheaper one at XL moto by Googling for photos of the bracket ????
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I assume it is so you can mount it for storage whilst not in use.

 

[Vipar]

Just looked they are now £43.99

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[Landy Andy]

Good spot though & thank you for posting - we've just joined the Patriot club!
Low stock left so if anyone else wants this then be quick https://www.xlmoto.co.uk/search/result?q=patriot&s=patriot#?pl&t=1 & use code WELCOME2020 for extra 10% discount so £25.92 delivered

Not sure if I’m doing it wrong, but lock is £49.99. Reduced to £42.12. Plus £3.95 postage. Then 10% off but is still a total of £43.66

 

[Wombles]

Not sure if I’m doing it wrong, but lock is £49.99. Reduced to £42.12. Plus £3.95 postage. Then 10% off but is still a total of £43.66

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There were two listings & looks like the lower price one is out of stock now as it did have a low stock warning Ours went through & confirmed by email but will wait & see if we get it or it was an error.

ORDERED PRODUCTS:​ Oxford Patriot Brake Disc Lock 1 x £24.41 Specified delivery time: 2-6 working days​ Products​ £24.41​ Home delivery​ £3.95​ PayPal​ £0.00​ Voucher Code:​ -£2.44​ Total​ £25.92​ ​

 

[Wombles]

Landy Andy found a discount code for this one Broken Link Removed use 2020TEN to take the price down to £34.75 delivered.

 

[Landy Andy]

Ahh. This one.

now out of stock.

I got one from Moto Central for £38 inc postage.

 

[Landy Andy]

Landy Andy found a discount code for this one Broken Link Removed use 2020TEN to take the price down to £34.75 delivered.

Arse. Too late now. But thanks for trying. ???

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[Richard n Ann]

Arse. Too late now. But thanks for trying. ???

It's just come up on my Facebook SPARK20 for 20% discount if it's not a sale item ?
Edit: XLmoto site

 

[Richard n Ann]

All fitted, that's my excitement finished for the week ?

A 2" galvanised plate washer is just the right thickness to go underneath, but needs drilling out to 15mm or so?

 

[Richard n Ann]

I'll have some spare plate washers if anybody wants one, just looked on ebay. 4 QUID EACH! And only 3mm thick ? think mine are 4mm
They're M10 so need drilling out..

PM me ?

 

[Stealaway]

All fitted, that's my excitement finished for the week ?
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A 2" galvanised plate washer is just the right thickness to go underneath, but needs drilling out to 15mm or so?

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Do you have to push the pin up through the 14mm hole from underneath the seat base?

 

[68c]

Why is the storage bracket shaped in this way? Is it to clip on to a motorcycle somewhere, no instructions with it and the hole is a bit big for a screw. I found the cheaper one at XL moto by Googling for photos of the bracket ????
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A lot of bike disc locks have a coiled cable that is clipped into the lock and the handlebar grip to remind the rider it is there, may be the hole is for the clip.

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