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Satnav safety cameras in Europe

Discussion in 'CONTINENTAL TOURING' started by strathspey, May 16, 2010.

  1. strathspey


    May 19, 2009
    North Yorkshire
    We are off to Europe soon and have a TomTom 750 Live satnav.
    Can anyone tell me in which countries it is legal to use the 'Safety Cameras' feature.
    AA/RAC websites say 'Radar detectors are illegal in most countries'.
    Does this mean that I can't use the feature on my TomTom which gives warning of the location of speed cameras?
  2. frogijock

    frogijock Funster

    Jul 3, 2008
    Definately illegal in France :Blush:
  3. Spacerunner


    Apr 7, 2008
    The one thing I noticed in France was when a sign warned you of a speed camera ther would definitely be one.

    Whereas in the UK the authorities just seem to spread the signs everywhere without actually siting a camera.
    The upshot being we all get a bit blasé about warning signs then run past a camera going to fast. Very clever money earning system :Angry:

    Any-ways you're on holiday, what's the rush, just stick to the speed limits and chill a bit :thumb:
  4. Robinhood


    Mar 7, 2010
    Sherwood Forest
    It is relatively easy to find lists of countries in which the use of Radar or Laser Detectors is banned. In addition, there are a number in which possession is also banned, France being one of them.

    I did find a definitive statement on the web sometime in the past for the use of location (GPS) data for the same, but at the moment I can't find it.

    AFAIK, however, there are very few countries that ban the use of GPS devices and speed camera databases, as opposed to the 'detection' devices as above. France, for instance, does not (see http://english.controleradar.org/speed-camera-detector.php)
  5. pappajohn

    pappajohn Funster

    Aug 26, 2007
    scarborough, nth yorks
    Radar detectors are illegal in almost every country but tomtom doesnt use radar......it uses predetermined lat and long positions (POI) to warn you in exactly the same way it tells you when approaching a garage/campsite etc.

    point being, sat nav is legal and theres no way of knowing if you use the camera database unless you look in the satnavs menu.
  6. Thiery


    May 16, 2010
    I assumed it was as I use mine all the time. :Wink: As well as speed warning signs. In France when somebody flashes with headlights coming in the opposite direction its a good indication that gendarmes are up ahead doing a mobile speed control or generally keeping an eye.
  7. Big Momma

    Big Momma

    Oct 3, 2009
    I have travelled in Europe fairly frequently over the last 12 years, always used a Sat Nav with Speed Camera locations that are regulary updated. My understanding is that Sat navs are not illegal but radar detectors are. However, you can always go to one of the main clubs (CC or C&CC) and ask for their opinion/advice.
  8. vwalan

    vwalan Funster

    Sep 23, 2008
    roche cornwall
    this year i bought a new map of spain and portugal, it came with all the speed camera sites in the two countries. so tom tom,s sites are in the public domane i would think.

    the map i bought was a cepsa map .shows lots of local names for beaches not normaly on most maps. also all cepsa fuel stations .
    needed a new one as my last one was bought in 1974.
    cheers alan,
  9. JQL


    Aug 30, 2009
    South of Paris
  10. strathspey


    May 19, 2009
    North Yorkshire
    Satnav safety cameras

    Thanks folks for all the useful suggestions. Based on what has been said, I'll use the Tomtom and disable the cameras while in Germany.
  11. Reallyretired

    Reallyretired Funster

    Apr 27, 2008
    Eastbourne East Sussex
    Thanks for this. My TomTom doesn't have German speed cameras and I can turn off the ones on the Snooper so should be OK.:Smile:
  12. Kon tiki

    Kon tiki

    Oct 11, 2007
    North Wales
    It would be simple enough to make the speed cameras into a different POI type. You could have them named as something else with a different icon & still use them so I can't see the point of any country making them illegal :RollEyes:

    Use a free program such as POIconverter to import the speed cameras, then save the file as something else i.e. junctions - bridges anyhting you like. Use a different icon (there are plenty built into Tomtom) then copy them back onto your device :thumb:

    I have my Tomtom set to warn me of the speed limits & make a noise if I exceed it, had one momentary lapse in France & went through a 90 km speed camera at 93 kms :Blush: (this was on the Tomtom speed) camera flashed :Doh: I normally stay under the limit but we had just been told that we should move from an aire as there was some sort of event going on & it might be a bit noisy. So in the rush to find somewhere I wasn't concentrating :Sad: haven't heard anything yet but would have to accept it if it comes.
  13. dazzer


    Jul 30, 2007
    In my house
    Some cameras flash you as a warning if your just over the limit without ticketing you.:Doh:

    Fingers crossed :Smile:
  14. TonyIsh UK

    TonyIsh UK

    Oct 31, 2008
  15. imprint


    Jul 14, 2009
    Thiery, it's just the same with headlight flashing here in Scotland. Even fairer, the vans here put out warning signs as well, so you're a wee numpty to get caught here. (Fingers and toes tightly crossed.)

    Interesting verbal point though. Is a "Radar detector" only something that itself actually detects radar, i.e. receives the transmission? I think - I'm not sure - it used to be illegal to listen deliberately to police radio transmissions. ( How they'd prove it is a different matter) I wonder if this could be used by a keen prosecutor here?

    The SatNav, as has been pointed out, detects the presence of radar by receiving a transmission from a third party - the satellite. Is this any different from receiving a transmission of a light signal, i.e. headlights.

    Finally, can one of our recently retired policemen confirm if it is an offence if I flash my headlights to warn on-coming traffic? ("Sorry, officer, what do you mean, I was signalling that I intended to turn right, silly me.")

    Quick, nurse, the screens!

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