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[Yorick]

This is a pal's great uncle.

Any ideas?

 

[scotjimland]

Warrington made Fairfield motorcycles.

The Fairfield Motorcycle - Warrington History Society

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[Yorick]

Wow. Thanks

 

[Boringfrog]

Warrington made Fairfield motorcycles.

The Fairfield Motorcycle - Warrington History Society

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You sure, Yorick posted a V twin engined bike?

 

[Orion]

1911 Humber V Twin?

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[Boringfrog]

1911 Humber V Twin?

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Looks a bit more like it, front mudguard and fork shape, huge rear drive, V Twin (JAP maybe).

 

[Yorick]

1911 Humber V Twin?

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Muchas gracias

 

[ChrisL]

With a bit of googling, Humber made a 2.75 hp 340cc v twin between 1911 and 1914, it won the 1911 Junior TT.

 

[pappajohn]

1911 Humber V Twin?

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Nope, frame top tube doesn't kick up at the front
Front mudguard is wrong. magneto isn't on frame lower front tube
Front forks are wrong

 

[Orion]

Nope, frame top tube doesn't kick up at the front
Front mudguard is wrong. magneto isn't on frame lower front tube
Front forks are wrong

The tank detailing and pinstripes look to be the same, so maybe another model Humber from the period?

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[Boringfrog]

Nope, frame top tube doesn't kick up at the front
Front mudguard is wrong. magneto isn't on frame lower front tube
Front forks are wrong

You're not comparing it to the Fairfield are you?

 

[Orion]

Doing a bit of reading about Humber Motorcycles and a couple of fun facts have immediately come up:

Humber produced the first motorcycle in England at their Coventry workshop in 1896.

Also in 1896 they established a subsidiary company in Sweden called ………Scania, which went on to become, well we all know what happened there!

 

[ChrisL]

Nope, frame top tube doesn't kick up at the front
Front mudguard is wrong. magneto isn't on frame lower front tube
Front forks are wrong

They made that model between 1911 and 1914, it's quite likely that some changes were made in those three years, possibly because of data gathered from the 1911 TT?

 

[DBK]

I'm with the Humber V Twin. If you look on line there are images very similar but I think the mark or logo in the middle of the tank is identical to the Humber.

 

[rb62]

With a bit of googling, Humber made a 2.75 hp 340cc v twin between 1911 and 1914, it won the 1911 Junior TT.

looks like it

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[ChrisL]

Percy Evans set the lap record on the second lap of the 37.5 mile circuit with a lap time of 53 minutes 34 seconds, average speed 42 mph, compare that with Michael Dunlops 2018 lap time of 17 minutes and 31 seconds average speed of 129.197 mph

 

[cyberyacht]

I can remember when Mike Hailwood did the first 100mph lap

 

[Hettie's Crew]

I can remember when Mike Hailwood did the first 100mph lap

I thought that honour was Bob McIntyre in 1957.

 

[The Coops]

I thought that honour was Bob MacIntyre.

It was Bob MacIntyre 1957 Geoff Duke did a 100mph lap in 1955 but later down graded to 99.97mph

 

[Yorick]

To add some story to the picture: the rider is Harold Edwards. The family were from Stockport, 5 sisters and 2 brothers. Harold died of pneumonia in his 20s, his older brother Edward was gassed a few weeks before the end of WW1, in 1918. A sister committed suicide shortly after that, and only 2 of the girls survived to “old age”, one being Paul’s granny. Probably not an unusual story from those times, but quite sobering.
Our expectations are a bit different nowadays, and maybe we complain more…

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[Stealaway]

To add some story to the picture: the rider is Harold Edwards. The family were from Stockport, 5 sisters and 2 brothers. Harold died of pneumonia in his 20s, his older brother Edward was gassed a few weeks before the end of WW1, in 1918. A sister committed suicide shortly after that, and only 2 of the girls survived to “old age”, one being Paul’s granny. Probably not an unusual story from those times, but quite sobering.
Our expectations are a bit different nowadays, and maybe we complain more…

You could build a replica, the engine seen correct

PROJECT 1922 JAMES V TWIN JAP V TWIN ENGINE AND PARTS SPRINT BIKE | eBay

One of the photos is a sketch of what I thought it might look like when finished. THIS IS A PROJECT MADE UP FROM VARIOUS PARTS. B est estimate of the capacity is 770cc or 980cc. and from the numbers dated between 1915 and 1920.

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[cyberyacht]

It was Bob MacIntyre 1957 Geoff Duke did a 100mph lap in 1955 but later down graded to 99.97mph

My memory is obviously fading.

 

[Dolmen]

I can remember when Mike Hailwood did the first 100mph lap

Facts might be wrong, however, no denying he was a hero of the track, he crashed on the IOM in ‘65, back in the pits the mechanics rip part of the fairing off, try to straighten bent handlebars out, one footrest missing, new goggles and put back out onto the track, still won.

 

[tonyidle]

Percy Evans set the lap record on the second lap of the 37.5 mile circuit with a lap time of 53 minutes 34 seconds, average speed 42 mph, compare that with Michael Dunlops 2018 lap time of 17 minutes and 31 seconds average speed of 129.197 mph

Better yet:

16:36.114 seconds – 136.358 mph (219.447 km/h) average (Peter Hickman, BMW M1000RR, 2023)

 

[Stealaway]

Better yet:

16:36.114 seconds – 136.358 mph (219.447 km/h) average (Peter Hickman, BMW M1000RR, 2023)

They just keep getting faster

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[Orion]

Better yet:

16:36.114 seconds – 136.358 mph (219.447 km/h) average (Peter Hickman, BMW M1000RR, 2023)

Not the Junior (or equivalent) though.

I’ll admit to closing my eyes in a few places when I first viewed Hickman’s fastest ever TT lap on the Superstock bike.

 

[Scotch mist]

We actually had bob Mac’s front race number plate off his 100mph tt lap record in our mc club for years , mounted in a picture frame , when the club was wound up ( 10 years ago ) I think the number went to a museum